| Author | Message | ||
     extuscan Citizen Username: Extuscan Post Number: 246 Registered: 6-2001 |
I know Maplewood is very gay proud, but do boys really need to knit? http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/26/nyregion/26KNIT.html --John | ||
| harpo Citizen Username: Harpo Post Number: 1074 Registered: 6-2001 |
Do you really think knitting is determined by sexuality -- or vice versa? Of all the nutty things I've read on MOL, this one made me laugh hardest yet! So I guess you were joking, right? Great article. Hooray for the knitting boys at Seth Boyden, who sound awfully smart to me. And it's wonderful that they are getting so much out of it -- relaxation and closer relations with friends and family. Personally, I can't stand to knit (neither can my mother) but I always admire the beautiful things others create with their hands. Those still nervously wringing their hands about sexually integrated knitting in the schools might want to read this (or knit something): http://knitting.about.com/library/weekly/aa020600.htm or this http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0521/p18s04-hfes.html Or take a look at this http://www.worldisround.com/articles/21378/photo4.html | ||
| Addy Citizen Username: Addy Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2003  |
and after knitting... the deer hunt to balance out the estrogen-fest. | ||
| cody Citizen Username: Cody Post Number: 447 Registered: 5-2001 |
Actually, lots of sailors and shepherds have been known to be knitters down through history - women came to the task after the men, according to one or two of my knitting books. I don't think gender matters at all for handcrafts. I've known men who were fantastic at them, women who hated them and vice-versa. I did use a form of knitting in one of my classes a few years ago and many of the children (especially the boys) found it relaxing and it seemed to focus them to move on to other classroom activities. I like to knit and do other handcrafts, so I'm not an unbiased observer here, but I thought it was a pretty neat thing to be done at Seth Boyden. | ||
| Southorangemom Citizen Username: Southorangemom Post Number: 59 Registered: 6-2003 |
Gee whiz! A lovely piece about Seth Boyden appears in today's Metro section of the NYT, along with a color photo and you are complaining!!!!!!!!!!!! Knitting is a great activity regardless of one's sexual predetermination. SouthOrangemom [and proud knitter] | ||
| michael Citizen Username: Michael Post Number: 450 Registered: 1-2002 |
Well Harpo, I knew it had to happen sooner or later, but guess what...? I agree with you !!! Knitting and sexuality? C'mon..puhlease ! Give me a break. I wouldn't worry about it extuscan. I think its great and not that unusual, by the way. Now, lets get on to some real news like my new TV pilot : Straight Eye for the Gay Guy ! whuddaya think ? Support the Maplewood/South Orange Ministry of Propaganda (otherwise known as the CCR) | ||
| Reflective Citizen Username: Reflective Post Number: 205 Registered: 3-2003 |
Michael LOL and ROTF! Cheers | ||
| Tom Reingold the prissy-pants Citizen Username: Noglider Post Number: 1534 Registered: 1-2003  |
My older daughter attended middle school in Edison, NJ. There, both boys and girls attend both "shop" and "home ec" classes. They both enjoy them, too. My daughter loved all of them, because she likes working with her hands more than anything else. She learned to bake bread, sew, work with wood, and she made an electronic toy. Ah, but it's more questionable for a man to do a womanly art than vice versa, isn't it? Well, I think it's time for that to change. Tom Reingold There is nothing | ||
| nan Citizen Username: Nan Post Number: 1065 Registered: 2-2001 |
I have been seeing the Times article on knitting showing up on educational litservs and educational websites all over the country. People are really envious of schools that encourage and support creative teaching efforts. This is not the norm in many places where kids have no play time or recess or art or music or special projects. All efforts go to the single-minded drive to raise test scores. Read this article and then be glad you live here: http://www.cta.org/CaliforniaEducator/v8i4/Feature_1.htm (and some of you stop trying to make here be like there) | ||
| johnny Citizen Username: Johnny Post Number: 795 Registered: 5-2001 |
Extuscan is a closet knitter. | ||
| extuscan Citizen Username: Extuscan Post Number: 247 Registered: 6-2001 |
Thats not all hun. --John | ||
| sportsnut Citizen Username: Sportsnut Post Number: 795 Registered: 10-2001 |
Over 25 years ago my Jr. HS made boys take home ec and girls take shop. I learned rudimentary cooking and sewing skills. I hated it at the time, but last time I checked I still had both of mine. | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 314 Registered: 6-2003 |
The whole concept is repellent. Recess should be a time for children to work off energy in outdoor physical activity, not be left sitting on their butts in a hallway to knit. Still, what can you expect from school administrators who refuse to let the children go outside (even when their parents have provided them with appropriate clothing for wet or cold weather), and who refuse to let the children run on their own playgrounds. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2014 Registered: 12-2001  |
Montagnard, This issue of physical activity at recess has been discussed before. It is unacceptable because of the risk of permanent pychological damage when some kids find out that they are NOT as good at tag or other games as some of the other kids. Please stick to your knitting. (Sorry, couldn't resist the bad pun.) | ||
| sportsnut Citizen Username: Sportsnut Post Number: 796 Registered: 10-2001 |
What happens to those who find out they are not good at knitting? What about those boys who will be ridiculed by other boys in the neighborhood for participating in a "girls" activity? Surely their psyche will be permanantly scarred. Therefore, I recommend that all of the kids just sit there staring at one another - to avoid the potential for psychological damage. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2016 Registered: 12-2001 |
Some might stare better than others. Somebody will be ridiculed for blinking first. How about isolation? | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4155 Registered: 5-2001 |
When my daughter was in eighth grade at MMS the award for the best home economics student went to a guy, a big, tough guy.  Rosie Greer, the great 1950s lineman for the NY Giants, knit as a hobby. I have it on reliable authority that nobody, not even Sam Huff, ever said a word. LOL | ||
| ReallyTrying Citizen Username: Reallytrying Post Number: 219 Registered: 1-2003 |
Mont, you've never knitted, obviously, or you wouldn't make that comment about recess and working off energy. Anyone who knits on a regular basis knows how theraputic and relaxing it can be. | ||
| kathy Citizen Username: Kathy Post Number: 697 Registered: 5-2001 |
BobK, I thought Rosie Grier did needlepoint. (Maybe he did both?) | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4158 Registered: 5-2001 |
Kathy, you may be right. It was a long time ago. But what the heck, needlepoint, knitting it is all the same to me. |
