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Don Perkins
Citizen
Username: Cowboy
Post Number: 230
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 11:12 am: |     |
According to the media, you can add the fingerprinting of illegal immigrants to the growing list of things America is not allowed to do to protect itself. Perky Katie Couric, that fountain of wisdom, is now telling us "Some countries are furious at this new policy," and she went on to quote a judge in Brazil comparing the "new security plans to Nazi horrors saying 'I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis."
A bit odd, don't you think? A Brazilian judge saying that America's efforts to protect itself are reminiscent of Nazi atrocities? Remind me; just where did so many of Hitler's henchmen flee at the end of World War II?
If this man is really a judge in Brazil? Then that must be some hum dinger of a legal system they have down there. Now we know that taking a picture and fingerprinting a visitor to your country compares with 'the worst horrors committed by the Nazis. Amazing
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Kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 282
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 11:17 am: | |
The current environment is ideal for so many of these whiny ninnies--they want government protection, but reserve the right to bitch and moan every step of the way.
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR..
Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W.
Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W.
Dave Ross is the coolest!!(being banned sucks) |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2655
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 11:24 am: | |
Don't be mean to Katie today, Don (or whoever you are) - today's her birthday. |
Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6064
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 11:38 am: | |
Kenney, move over and let Cowboy post from your computer now. |
Kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 285
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 11:45 am: | |
who is cowboy?
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR..
Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W.
Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W.
Dave Ross is the coolest!!(being banned sucks) |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 2565
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 11:47 am: | |
Katie Curic or whatever, she's a rocket scientist right? At least I thought so? |
Kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 286
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:09 pm: | |
ah, i get it Dave....wrong again...
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR..
Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W.
Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W.
Dave Ross is the coolest!!(being banned sucks) |
Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6065
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:11 pm: | |
Let's just say the topic name got me interested in digital fingerprints. Maybe one day I'll flip the message board switch that lets all IP addresses be shown -- MOL's own Code Orange feature. Who could disagree with that? I'm just protecting the community, ya know? |
Tom Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1663
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:14 pm: | |
I'm with cowboy on this one. My fingerprint doesn't say anything about me. It doesn't give away my political leanings, my spending habits, or my sexual behavior. If the French or the Turks or the Brazilians want to take my finger prints at their ports, I see no reason to object.
But I disagree with Kenney. I think whining about the government's processes is appropriate, though I would have used a more dignified word. I just won't whine about the fingerprinting.
Tom Reingold
There is nothing
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mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 2568
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:16 pm: | |
I know who cowboy is, and it's not Kenney!
BTW, I was insanely infuriated and went into a frothing at the mouth bulging eyed fit when they made me feel like a criminal by fingerprinting me when I started this new job. However, my friends and I are enjoying the medication they prescribed for it. |
Kenney
Citizen
Username: Kenney
Post Number: 287
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:16 pm: | |
Wouldn't that create some security problems?
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today..FDR..
Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth...G.W.
Everyone wants a voice in human freedom. There's a fire burning inside of all us...L.W.
Dave Ross is the coolest!!(being banned sucks) |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 432
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:17 pm: | |
maybe they're pissed that we've exempted something like 25 countries from the fingerprinting.
now the potential terrorists will just have to get fake passports from European countries. |
Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6067
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:20 pm: | |
(Didn't say cowboy was Kenney.)
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Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6068
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:22 pm: | |
Back to Brazil... great movie and I hear they began fingerprinting US tourists as a revenge method. |
Don Perkins
Citizen
Username: Cowboy
Post Number: 238
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:22 pm: | |
What a shock..."now the potential terrorists will just have to get fake passports from European countries."
You really don't think...
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mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 2569
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:22 pm: | |
My boss was exempt from finger printing. That's why he's my boss. Get it? He earned it!
Earned:
To gain especially for the performance of service, labor, or work: earned money by mowing lawns.
To acquire or deserve as a result of effort or action: She earned a reputation as a hard worker.
To yield as return or profit: a savings account that earns interest on deposited funds.
Hmmmm. |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2656
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:23 pm: | |
Dave - You mean, Cowboy and Kenny are shackin' up?  |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 2570
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:26 pm: | |
Kenney and Cowboy/DP - that's a glitch in IP addresses if I ever heard one. |
Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6070
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 - 12:34 pm: | |
I'm going to keep messing with Cliff/DP until he becomes Tony Dorsett, greatest runnngback ever. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 347
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 9, 2004 - 2:33 am: | |
Automated fingerprinting is not without its errors, so we'll probably see a fair number of innocent people labelled as potential terrorists. A lot will depend on how the screening process is defined and implemented.
For the seriously interested, the website for the Second International Fingerprint Verification Competition at the Univerity of Bologna has lots of useful information. The U.S. company Bioscrypt took the top prizes in 2002. The French technology giant SAGEM, which supplies big systems to the likes of Interpol and the FBI, dropped from first place in 2000 to ninth in 2002 (unless they were one of the anonymous entrants). |
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