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mem
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Post Number: 2626
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newark - Self explanatory
Columbus, OH - a depressed, bad looking 1950's burn-out city
Detroit - Scary
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Dave Ross
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 5:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

San Francisco (overt anti-Asian racism, awful weather, violent panhandlers)
Philadelphia - except for center city
Paterson - scary
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greeneyes
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 6:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Philadelphia-Overrated
Washington, DC- My neck hurt from looking over my shoulder too much and what's up with all that traffic?
San Francisco-I can never dress appropriately for the weather.
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wharfrat
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 6:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

New York, specifically Manhattan-lived there for about 20 years. Reached the point where I hated going to the "city" (from Brooklyn) on weekends.

Any big city in Ohio, except Cleveland.

Utica/Syracuse-does one really need to go into detail for the reasons why.



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Maplewoody
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave, were you out in SF recently? I couldn't believe all the homelss and drunks and drugged out people all over Market Street. It stunk along the street and in the subway stations. WAY more than in NYC!

Lived near Phila. (Media, Pa.) for about 3 yrs. and did not like it there. Thought people weren't friendly. I don't know how it got the nickname the city of Brotherly Love.... Also had a chain ripped off my neck late one night coming out of a club in Center City. The cops did catch the guy and I ended up getting paid $400 from the criminal.
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CFA
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Altoona, PA (talk about depressing)
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Dave Ross
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Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2004 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was last there ummmm probably 8 years ago. The time before that it wasn't as bad, so I imagine it has worsened.
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Katy M.
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

EEEK..my hometown (Altoona, PA) made the worst list.
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Ed May
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mem

If you mean Newark, Delaware I disagree.
If you mean Newark, New Jersey I disagree.
Maybe you mean another Newark?


Ed May
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ffof
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wilmerding. There's no Winkies in Wilmerding.
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mas
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Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

San Francisco...I agree with the postings on the bad smells...and they're not from old seafood from Fisherman's Wharf! Streetlife is "forgiven" at the expense of working stiffs.
The dot-com revived things for a while, but that was temp.
Lived, worked there and in the burbs for 5 years--only to finish school, not sure if it was a good idea now, since it meant living there about 4 1/2 years longer than I wanted. But at least I have the piece of paper!


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Elizabeth
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, depressing. Two of my "home towns" made the list.
Detroit: great middle-eastern food. Two great baseball stadiums (old Tiger stadium and the new one) Great clubs (in the 60's, anyway). MOTOWN.
Philadelphia: it's true most of the natives aren't very friendly--but if you look for ex-midwesterners and ex New Yorkers, you'll be set. Meanwhile there's the Philadelphia Orchestra, Philadelphia Museum of Art, the Barnes, the rowers on the Schuylkill. Fairmount Park. New City. South Philly. The Franklin Insititute. Old, old streets and alleyways that really take you back in time. Pennsylvania Ballet. The Academy of Music. Le Bec Fin . . .
I'm making myself homesick.
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gozerbrown
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 12:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since I commute between Broad Street Station and Penn Station, I would have to put Newark on the list. I generally walk between the two during warmer months and it's quite unpleasant. In a typical walk on major streets, I am hit up for money an average of three times (each way).

Atlantic City
Certain aspects of Philadelphia

Hey...are we going to now have a list of our Favorite US Cities?
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Redsox
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1) bridgeport conn.- how scary is that place??
2) chelsea mass.- a bad rap- certainly justified..
3) ca-ca-camden, nj - ouch...
4) paterson, nj - look out....
5) lowell mass.- check out mickey ward's fans...
6) lynn mass.- lynn, lynn city of sin...
7) l.a. calif- chelsea mass w/palm trees.....
8) hemstead, l.i.- run, i say run....
9) irvington, nj- cause it's right next door...
10) syracuse, ny- what a dump.....
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Spare_o
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Definitely Detroit. Not fond of Columbia, SC either.
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akl
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Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1. Houston, TX - smelly, humid, boring.
2. Camden, NJ - desolate, bankrupt, corrupt.
3. Troy, NY - The (seemingly) longest, (actual) slowest, most painful part of the ride up to Vermont.
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tom
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Posted on Sunday, February 8, 2004 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And city in CT other than New Haven. Richmond, VA. Orlando. Little Rock, which just barely qualifies as a city.
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 7:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ffof, you know Wilmerding! Yeah, not a great city...

Newark NJ
Philadlephia
Columbus OH (anywhere in OH)
Los Angeles
Detroit (anywhere in MI)
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wnb
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Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OH MY GOD ffof and Cynicalgirl, you must have grown up across the street from me. Where you jagoffs from an'at?
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Duncan
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Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroit. I lived there for nine months and saw and was victim to more crime in those nine months than any other stretch of time anywhere else I have lived. Constantly gray and scary place.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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xavier67
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Montclair--full of latte-sipping, turtleneck-wearing, Maclaren-pushing media types with their loud, spoiled children. Yuk! (Ditto Madison, WI, though they have better beers there)

Boston--it's got many, many Redsox fans, 'nuff said

Miami--the poorest large city in America, with neighborhoods like Overtown, Liberty City, Little Haiti, all of which makes South Bronx look like Club Med.

Orlando, FL--talk about a culinary wasteland. Nothing but fastfood everywhere. A living example of why obesity is overtaking America.

Paris, Texas--its evocation of France is enough to make me wanna puke.

Normal, IL--despite the name, about as normal as most suburbs of CT.

Chestnut Hill, Phillie--see note for Montclair above, except worse especially around the Septa station.

Kansas City, MO--about as colorless as its so-called "international" airport, which looks like a neglected, second-rate community college sports stadium...on a good day.

New Orleans--oh my, where do I begin? A City Gone Wild (in a bad way), full of putrid flesh of all color, gender, and persuasions, whose foul odor you can smell all the way here in New Jersey.

As that little girl with pigtails (who later turned into an alcoholic drug addict) once said, "There is no place like home."






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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 6:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wnb and ffof: I was born in Kingston NY, went to school a bit in Lewiston, NY. Then, Scotch Plains; then Newark, DE (for 8-12; college). Then Columbus OH for grad school (good-by, Columbus).
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jem
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 7:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We lived in Kingston, NY for 3 years. (1984-87) It was on its way down then, and IBM dealt it a huge blow when it closed up its plant and left in the late '90's. What a sad place.
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sportsnut
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 10:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newburgh, NY - nice location but drugs and crime took hold long ago and haven't let go.

Newark, NJ
North Philly
Detroit
Virginia Beach - way overrated.
Just about any city in the middle of Florida (except Orlando)


IBM decimated the entire area from Kingston down to Poughkeepsie. Now they have built a state of the art faciltiy in Fishkill, talk about a slap in the face.
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wnb
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cynicalgirl, I have no idea from that how you could possibly know about Wilmerding or that there's no Winkies there....


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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 5:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By Wilmerding you mean Wilmington, DE, right? If not my abject apologies. Wilmerding is what my husband always calls his old home suburban sprawl town.

Lookin' back at my posts I can see how you'd wonder..
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wnb
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How funny. Wilmerding is a sad little town east of Pittsburgh PA with, ironically enough, no Winkies or much of anything else these days. "There's no Winkies in Wilmerding" is a saying I heard many times back in high school.
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 7:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow! Thanks for the clarification. I really thought you meant Wilmington, DE -- pronounced locally as "Wo-mngdn"

Did the mining do it? Husband also has lots of Welsh mining relatives out towards Scranton and Pittsburgh. I always liked Pittsburgh, personally, but I've seen enough of out that way to know how quickly sad little towns occur...

Logan, Ohio for example...
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nan
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Post Number: 1165
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cynicalgirl,

I went to OSU for graduate school too (early 1980's)! I was not really happy there (sports, yuck) but I made some great friends and had some wonderful adventures. It was so cheap to live there-never in my life will I be able to live on $5,000 a year and have so much fun.

Oh, and my least favoriate "city" is West New York, NJ. Worst place I ever lived. I've still got ringing in my ears from all the alarms going off on Bergenline Avenue.
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 6:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, nan, I was at OSU 1976-79 for graduate school (Ph D program in English). Not my happiest 3-4 years. Certainly hear you on cheap (though at the time, comparable to my "home" state of Delaware). Fondest memories are of Larry's bar, the Blue Danube (Blue Dube) and a little bookstore called My Back Pages. I lived on like $300/month. Had some very fine professors, but mostly came to loathe Ohio. I was never a sports' fan, and that's a rough row to hoe in Columbus. Remember Saturday nights after a Buckeye's game? Mayhem...
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nan
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Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup. I still can't wear scarlet and gray without cringing. I lived in a big, run down house on E. 17th Street full of Ph.d lit majors (and English undergrad) and Engineering students and other assorted odd balls and pets. Lots of non-compatible people finding interesting connections. Sort of a pre-curser to MOL, I guess.

Since we were there almost at the same time, we probably got drunk with some of the same crowd. I spent lots of time at Bernie's Bagels getting free coffee refills and, of course, the "Dube." Supposedly the waitresses there were prostitutes but I think they just spread that rumor to get more business. I think it's closed now.

I also spent too much time at Dick's Den which had pitchers for something like a buck. There were some down and out poet types in residence there that provided eclectic amusements. Of course, most of the time I was in my studio or the library. . .
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 7:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dick's Den....hitting a memory cell, but can't see it at all. I was very much a Larry's person. And some movie theatre, maybe on Indianola?, that showed 2nd run movies and had a bar with food. What a great concept! God, I think I lived on E 17th for a bit. I'm feeling confused, but I lived in a little conrete block apt building with efficiencies, then another, like 30's/40's apt building (which I loved). Geography is failing me right now, though.

Yes, Bernies! Every "payday" I'd go there a treat myself to a bagel with smokey cheddar melted on it...Took in mending from prof's to supplement my fellowship, did a little au pairing. Fled to Ann Arbor in '79 to take a job as a college textbook salesperson...
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nan
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Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 11:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larry's was GREAT! I went there a lot too--I had forgotten.

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