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parkah
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Username: Parkah

Post Number: 41
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 6:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i'm lifting up old gross tiles from the basement floor and finding that the adhesive used to original stick them down 75 years ago continues to stick to the basement floor. it's a tar-like-black-goo that won't come up with a putty knife... rather it sticks to everything. is there any kind of solvent that might pull this stuff up?

my goal was to pull this tile up and just paint the floor with basement paint... if worse comes to worse maybe i should just paint over the goo?

suggestions welcome.
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3409
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mineral Sprits.

Caution!!! Vent well and do not use around pilot lights or other sources of fire.

Oh, and after all that you will need to sand the cement floors, and use a primer to get the paint to hold.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic.
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Michael K. Mc Kell
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Username: Greenerose

Post Number: 188
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you try a floor scraper?
They sell them at the Home Chepo.
Hammer and stiff knife / scraper?
Michael K. Mc Kell
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3410
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Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 9:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In my experience, when you have the Goo, scrapers don't cut it.

On one job I did, I dusted the goo with sand. Then later, I had a floor guy sand the floor with a coarse grit open coat sand paper.

Big shop-vac job, mop and we were in business.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic.
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Jim Bender
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Username: Jimcoolia

Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 8:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you checked to make sure this is safe for you to do? In no way am i trying to alarm you, but there is a good chance that there is Asbestos in the glue. If you do remove those tiles and glue, be sure to tape off the area to the rest of the house and make sure you do not breath any of the dust in.

sorry to post this, but we had tiles on our basement floor and they were chalk full of Asbestos.
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papayagirl
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Post Number: 147
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 8:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How can one tell if there's asbestos in the tiles? And other than floor tiles and pipe wrapping, what other things can have asbestos in them? (I mean, that one should worry about?)

Just curious.
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bobk
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Post Number: 4358
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Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 11:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Older tiles have asbestos backing and it is possible that the mastic has it also. A guy I know was a salesman trainee for Congoleum back in the early sixties. One of the sales pitches they taught him was to flex a tile and describe the backing as "creamy white asbestos backing". :-)
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parkah
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Username: Parkah

Post Number: 42
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 9:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for all of the responses. i guess i have 2 questions now...

1. the tiles aren't ceramic, they appear to be the peal and stick kind. are these type of tiles likely to have asbestos?

2. if these *are* asbestos tiles i'm picking up (having ripped up half of the tiles already) is there a professional service i should use to finish the job and safely pull up the goo?

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Jim Bender
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Username: Jimcoolia

Post Number: 9
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 11:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Parkah,

i would be safe and make a few calls. our tiles had the asbestos in the mastic (glue). we used someone called:

D & S ABATEMENT INCORPORATED
11 ROSENGREN AVE, TOTOWA, NJ 07512
Phone: (973) 956-8900

find out if there is a way to 'test' it yourself? assuming the worst for now, they did a great job, very safe, removing the tiles we had in our basement. PL me if you need to discuss further.
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themp
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Post Number: 419
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 11:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We had it in our kitchen, tiles and mastic. Pretty cheap to have abated, and I was secretly glad not to have to do the backbreaking work.

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