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Wilkanoid
Citizen Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 90 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:15 am: |    |
I do NOT understand why some sidewalks are still not shoveled, more than three days since the last snow. It's been long enough. What really ticks me off is that I see kids navigating these unshoveled sidewalks on their way to and from school. I know some people who are ABLE to shovel the snow, but are have not done it. The snow will not melt for another week, so what's the story?
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Arnomation
Citizen Username: Arnomation
Post Number: 112 Registered: 7-2003

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:20 am: |    |
I was just thinking the same thing. There is a red house that is right next to Tuscan that has about sixty feet of sidewalk covered in ice that we had to traverse this morning. I can't believe they haven't been ticketed or forced to clear it. It's an incredible hazard. |
   
bobk
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4398 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:44 am: |    |
If you didn't do your walk on Sunday evening, everything froze up solid overnight and you can't shovel ice. I am not being an apoligist for the people who didn't get out on Sunday, but it is a fact. Maybe a couple of handgrenades?  |
   
Tom Reingold
Citizen Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1798 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:44 am: |    |
On my street, slightly less than half of the houses have unshoveled walks. The slush has iced over. If they decide to clear it off now, it will be a tough job to crack the ice, and I bet they don't plan on doing it. I guess I'm just comiserating, since I don't see a solution except to stop by and talk with the neighbors or to drop off notes for them. Is this negligence a new phenomenon in this town? This is my first winter here. Tom Reingold the prissy-pants There is nothing
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Dave Ross
Citizen Username: Dave
Post Number: 6175 Registered: 4-1998

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:52 am: |    |
There was a really short timeframe between snowfall and when it froze. I managed to get to the sidewalk, but by the time I turned to the driveway it was solid. People should at least throw sand down. |
   
Wilkanoid
Citizen Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 91 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:54 am: |    |
Negligence does seem to be a new thing. We have been in Maplewood more than five years, and this is the first time this has happened. People are normally out shoveling as soon as the snow stops. Maybe Sunday night football had something to do with it. It's easier to sit at the pub watching the game with a beer than to go out and do the right thing. If things are solidly frozen over, then wouldn't it make sense to put down ice or sand? |
   
Tom Reingold
Citizen Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1801 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:56 am: |    |
If things are solidly frozen over, then wouldn't it make sense to put down ice or sand? Sand, yes. Ice? Oh, you mean salt! Tom Reingold the prissy-pants There is nothing
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Wilkanoid
Citizen Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 92 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 9:59 am: |    |
Ooops, slip of the finger. Ice on the sand could be one way to read that mis-typed sentence. But you're right, I really did mean salt or sand. Raid your sandboxes, if the cats haven't gotten to them yet! |
   
marian
Citizen Username: Marian
Post Number: 74 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 10:18 am: |    |
Salt and sand would be good folks. There's really no excuse for not throwing some down on your sidewalks, front walks and steps. Please think about your neighbors, mail carriers, delivery persons, etc. who must walk on these dangerous icy surfaces. (If I can’t appeal to your human decency, then at least consider your legal liability if someone breaks their neck on your front steps!) Also, who's responsible for clearing the sidewalk by the train tracks on Dunnell? There's a good 50-75 yard stretch that is sheer ice (no sand, no salt) and really scary to walk on. I'm surprised that someone hasn't slipped and broken something while running for a train yet. I asked the woman behind the concierge’s desk in the station yesterday about it and she said she'd tell the station's handymen but it was still awful this a.m......
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algebra2
Citizen Username: Algebra2
Post Number: 1556 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 10:25 am: |    |
and Maplewood Avenue (where the commuter parking is) is horrible. |
   
SoOrLady
Citizen Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 301 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 10:37 am: |    |
You can buy "pet friendly" ice melters instead of using salt. I had to buy booties for my dog - he couldn't make it around the block without limping! He's still not used to them.. sort of prances like a show horse.. |
   
thegoodsgt
Citizen Username: Thegoodsgt
Post Number: 366 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 11:15 am: |    |
Is there an ordinance in Maplewood or South Orange for clearing one's sidewalks? If so, who enforces it? If it's not being enforced, should they be removed from the books? I don't see how we can afford homes valued at $250K to $1 million with property taxes that approach $12K/yr. yet we cannot afford to pay a couple of hustlers $50 to clear the snow. |
   
Ukealalio
Citizen Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 371 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 11:32 am: |    |
Some of the worst offenders are on Maplewood Ave. between Jefferson and the town. I would cut anyone slack just on the basis of the last storm because I shovelled twice and still have some icy areas on my driveway and sidewalk (the salt melts it but then it freezes up again). Unfortunately , I've noticed it's the same houses who never clear the snow properly and these again are the worst on that particular stretch. Any Maplewood police on line ?. Ticket these lazy sods ASAP, it may save someone from getting hurt (and save the negligent owner a fortune over a law suit). |
   
Mayhewdrive
Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 726 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 11:33 am: |    |
I have heard of S.O. issuing warnings on my street for some sidewalks that are not clean. Although, it seems they have not been discriminating between people who TRIED to clear the sidwalk (and left some residual ice) and people who didn't even bother to shovel at all. Ironically, there are also some patches of road with residual ice...who is enforcing that? |
   
Brett
Citizen Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 601 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 11:40 am: |    |
I watched a news story on the icy sidewalks in NY. Apparently most of the government buildings were closed Monday (MLK) so the maintenance crews were not there to shovel the snow and salt the sidewalks. Once it all froze over it became a very difficult and time consuming job. So the city has been very lax in enforcing the law because they would in effect be ticketing themselves. Is that what’s going on around here? The town is hesitant to ticket because they didn’t get the job done themselves.
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SoOrLady
Citizen Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 303 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 11:46 am: |    |
thegoodsgt: You don't find many "door to door" shovelers these days. I live on a fairly busy street, but, no one has knocked on my door in years. Whatever happened to enterprising teens who wanted to make some quick cash? |
   
ffof
Citizen Username: Ffof
Post Number: 1832 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:06 pm: |    |
all this whining! Apparently like Dave said there was a small window of opportunity to shovel since there was slush, then it froze, then snow - or something like that - I wouldn't know though since we were OUT OF TOWN for the 3 day weekend. I would imagine this would be true for many. We did our best with the icy drive and walk when we got back. Thanks to our neighbors for doing the sidewalk. We all seem to help each other out in these situations. |
   
Tom Reingold
Citizen Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1810 Registered: 1-2003

| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:09 pm: |    |
thegoodsgt, I believe all towns require homeowners to keep their sidewalks (if any) safe to walk on. I haven't heard specifically that SO/M have such ordinances, but I'm willing to bet money that they do. After the first big snowfall of the seasons, I had a young adult man come to my door and shoveled my walk and driveway for a fee. Since then, no one else has offered. Tom Reingold the prissy-pants There is nothing
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tom
Citizen Username: Tom
Post Number: 1831 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:22 pm: |    |
And what's with the platform at the South Orange train station? |
   
steven
Citizen Username: Steven
Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:33 pm: |    |
128 and 130 Maplewood Ave should have their owners driven out of town my a rioting crowd. They have not even tried to clear those walks. Get some salt and toss it out. It is not too hard or too expensive. Both houses are owned by able bodied adults. Two of the houses on the same side of the street with older and less able owners have nice wide clear sidewalks. Shame on you 128 and 130. Yes I slipped last night and I am angry. I half wish I broke a bone so I could sue. |