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bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4431
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 10:44 am: |     |
Mrs. K is on the warpath. She just watched the sanitation guys pick up our nicely stacked and tied, complete with a bow, newspapers and throw them in the back of the truck with our regular garbage.
Is this SOP? If so, why go through the farse or recycling? |
Cynicalgirl
Citizen
Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 349
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 10:55 am: | |
I've seen this before where I used to live, which is why I've always been kinda Swiss on recycling....I'd like to know if it happens here, too! |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 277
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 6:54 pm: | |
bobk
pls check with the TC to see what $ Maplewood receives for recycling paper.
Then Ms K will know how long she should stay on the warpath. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4435
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 7:10 pm: | |
Reflective, the point is the paper wasn't being recycled. It was heading off to the incinerator or land fill along with the rest of the garbage.
For the record, all us Ks are in favor of recycling, even if it costs money to get a recycling firm to take our stuff. However, that doesn't appear to be the case with newspapers. |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 281
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 9:14 pm: | |
Let me clarify my comment.
Is maplewood still getting funds for recyling paper. Is there still a market?
Same for aluminum and glass.
Recycling is great but is there the $ incentive there once was? |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4437
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 5:30 am: | |
I really don't know, but I suspect there isn't much of a market.
I know that in some areas, I don't know about NJ, things like old roof shingles and old paving materials are recycled. However, the cost structure is such that the dumper still pays a fee, but less than at a landfill, to the recycler.
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Ukealalio
Citizen
Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 386
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 12:14 pm: | |
Someones not making the right deal. I'm in international trade and I can tell you first hand that most of the exporting from the United States is waste paper products. Ships going to China (our current biggest trading partner) are filled 33-40% with waste paper.
There are different grades but I can't believe there is no market for this. I deal with people on a daily basis making a fortune off of recycled forrest products. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 381
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 1:00 pm: | |
I knew that the shipping cartons on those imported products had to come from somewhere. |
Ukealalio
Citizen
Username: Ukealalio
Post Number: 389
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 9:14 am: | |
Exactly. And the platics and metal that go into making a lot of the products come from here also, as metal scrap and synthetic resin. |
clkelley
Citizen
Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 116
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:38 am: | |
This is a cross-post from the Mostly Maplewood area.
I just got off the phone with Michael Bishop, the Director of Public Works for Maplewood. He was very nice, and he explained the following to me:
1) Plastic and paper recycling are still being done. However, they do get put into a regular trash truck. That's just how they collect them - they don't go to the landfill with regular trash. They aren't "mixed in" with regular trash though, although it might look like that.
The other stuff goes into the special trucks with the divided areas for glass, cans, etc.
2) Plastic recycling is being reconsidered because of the cost. However, plastic would still be separated. Instead of going into making new plastic though, it would go towards fuel generation. Essentially the power plants would burn the plastics for fuel. There is a company that buys plastic for this purpose. I don't know much about this technology, but I'm going to try to find out.
Hope this sets everybody's mind at ease.
There are three openings on the Environmental Advisory Committee, if anybody is interested. |
jgberkeley
Supporter
Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3467
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:41 pm: | |
Huh? I watched my trash go into the truck. Then I watched a truck of plastic go into the same truck.
Mr. Bishop tells you that the plastic is not mixed with the trash? How is that?
Do you really think that the truck takes it all to some place where the plastic is now picked out from the trash?
"They aren't "mixed in" with regular trash though, although it might look like that." Well if it walks like a duck and it smells like a duck, the odds are it is a duck.
Want to buy a bridge?
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic. |
clkelley
Citizen
Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 127
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 8:26 am: | |
jg - call him yourself and ask for an explanation - I didn't actually see the trash mix-in happen, so can't really credibly push him too hard on it. You did, so you can. Tell him "I saw this with my own two eyes" and see how far you get. I didn't "smell a rat" and I'm not all THAT gullible. :-) (And I have a nice bridge already thanks - the salesman was also very nice!)
And let us know what Mr. Bishop says. I'm still wrestling with myself about going to the EAC meeting - Wednesdays are really not good for me. But if I know for sure that recycling isn't being carried out appropriately, I'll find a way to get there. You might not have seen the thread in the "Mostly Maplewood" area, but I made a public promise there to follow up on this issue! And I meant it! |
jgberkeley
Supporter
Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3478
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:24 am: | |
Ok, I called Mr. Bishop.
He told me a good story, the one where Waste Management uses a normal trash truck just to collect the plastic, (and nothing else).
So I told him what I saw. Then he told me that it was possible that the plastic in the 2nd truck that arrived was contanimated and had to be trashed. I told him what I saw in the 2nd truck and it sure looked like milk and other normal plastic trash to me.
So, he took the date, said he would read my original post on MOL and call Waste Management to see what was up.
Later,
George
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic. |
jgberkeley
Supporter
Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3486
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 4:16 pm: | |
New rub.
Today at the store, Waste Management arrived with the big truck to dump the dumpster for the stores and the townhouses.
I noted that the truck was full, I mean full of news paper and the driver was about to dump 6 yards to general trash into the truck.
I asked about the source of all the paper and why it is being mixed into the trash.
Answer: I just pick it up sir.
I now have my camera with me.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic. |
clkelley
Citizen
Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 146
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 6:46 pm: | |
Okay ...
Now I'm ready to get mad again.
Do you think this is the town scamming us, or Waste Management? |
jgberkeley
Supporter
Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3490
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 9:28 pm: | |
I'm thinking Waste Management.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic. |
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