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Maplemom
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Username: Maplemom

Post Number: 87
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 4, 2004 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a lot out there from gutter helmets to plain ole, plain ole. Our gutters are very old dented/crusted metal and since we will be painting this spring we are going to replace them.
I saw a house on that has just done some nice-looking solid copper ones. They look expensive, but I'm not sure if I am used to seeing them un-painted and so bright. Are those better and if so, why?
Main Questions:
What kind of gutters should we get?
Just get them in white or use a 'custom' color?
What about metal vs. PVC?
Should they go up before or after we paint our house?
I'm rambling...just need some good solid advice. If you have a place to recommend that would be great, too.
Thanks
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bobk
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 4542
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 5, 2004 - 7:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Copper is wildly expensive. Overtime they will get a green patina.

My personal rec would be to use seamless gutters which are formed on the job site in custom lengths so there are no ugly seams. However, these are usually pretty light and if you have unusual conditions where there aren't many downspouts I don't think they are available in larger sizes.

If you choose colored gutters just make sure you can live with the color you pick for the next thirty or forty years. :-)

I would instal gutters after painting, but remove the existing gutters during the paint job so that the fascia board can be painted and rotten sections replaced.
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alan
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 112
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 12:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

advice: don't use boehringer. do use nick kosh.
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Maplemom
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Username: Maplemom

Post Number: 89
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Friday, February 6, 2004 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Alan,
I just had Boehringer come quote (my neighbor gave me a rec).
Would you mind telling me why not? If you'd rather private line me, that's fine, too. I don't want any more headaches than I need!!!
Also, Why Nick Kosh and how do I contact him?
Thanks
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us2innj
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Username: Us2innj

Post Number: 983
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 7, 2004 - 3:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Avoid Fred Boehringer at all costs. His work is strictly hack stuff. He was the only person to ever think that gutters can be cleaned out without ever running water into them or down the leaders. His window cleaning was so awful, that we went out and used their ladder to do the work over ourselves. The crew he uses for windows and painting and fix-up stuff, are careless and sloppy, and don't really know what they're doing.

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alan
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 113
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 8, 2004 - 1:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

exactly. i agree with everything said above.

nick kosh has done a great job cleaning including finding a few problems that a more careless job would have missed. i would trust him to do new gutters, though i haven't used him for that.

his number is 973-226-3322
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Michael K. Mc Kell
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Username: Greenerose

Post Number: 196
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Copper gutters are very expensive like Yankee gutters but last for 100 years.
If your home and/or wallet dosen't dictate the look of cooper I agree with the seamless including gutter helmut. I've had this system for 6 years and have yet to clean anything.

Michael K. Mc Kell
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jasper
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Username: Jasper

Post Number: 44
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have the Shield Raingutter System installed on our house, similar to Gutter Helmet. While it seems to do a good job of funneling the rain without getting clogged with leaves, we have had a problem with small birds making nests inside the gutter. They can squeeze in to the opening between the actual gutter and the "helmet", providing them a nice protected space. I'm not aware of any clogging issues this has caused, but you can hear them scrabbling around in there and it is somewhat disturbing. Anyone else have this problem with this type of shielded gutter system?
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us2innj
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Username: Us2innj

Post Number: 985
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(My post, copied and pasted from Gutter Helmet thread)

We looked into Gutter Helmet, and Leaf Guard. Either system for our house would run around $1800. The thing we didn't like about either one of these gutter systems, is that the downspouts had to be oversized and looked really klunky. We saw them on neighbors houses, and found them to be an eyesore. We went with a professionally installed leaf filtering system that uses surgical screening, and conventional width downspouts. It seems to be worked very well through this winter and this past autumn. However, since we are still waiting for some minor tweeking on the roof, from the installer, I would, at this time, be reluctant to give you a contractor recommendation.

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