| Author | Message | ||
     mikecappy Citizen Username: Mikecappy Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2001 |
Does it seem fishy to see a student dropped off for school at the back gate of The Clinton School in a Yellow Taxi from Newark? | ||
| tip Citizen Username: Tip Post Number: 157 Registered: 6-2001 |
Not according to most people on this board. There seems to be, and has been for years, EXTREME denial of this problem. I gave up fighting about this issue long ago. There were illegal students, in 1980, when I graduated....and they have just increased over the years. Then you will get the people who say "all kids are entitled to a decent education". Who cares if they live her. jeez......... | ||
| harpo Citizen Username: Harpo Post Number: 1128 Registered: 6-2001 |
mikecappy, Is it illegal in Maplewood to be the child of divorced parents, one of whom lives in Newark, and still go to school here? Is it illegal for the father or mother of a kid in Maplewood to have a job with Yellow Cab in Newark and drop them off on the way to work? Is it illegal for a kid who lives in Maplewood to be taken along when his or her mother takes his grandmother in Newark to the hospital emergency room and still make it to school the next morning? What would you think if you saw a kid getting dropped off at the back gate of The Clinton School in a Yellow Taxi from Millburn? | ||
| Dave Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6319 Registered: 4-1998  |
One of my neighbors drives a Newark Taxi, so not fishy at all. I'm sure there are illegal students, but riding in a taxi isn't proof of anything. I would think illegals would be LESS likely to be so blatant about their arrivals and departures. | ||
| jet Citizen Username: Jet Post Number: 354 Registered: 7-2001 |
Harpo, you sound like Martha Stewart. I don't want to pay for kids that do not live in Maplewood. Schooling accounts for 70% of our tax bills. I want the best for our children, not someone elses. | ||
| mikecappy Citizen Username: Mikecappy Post Number: 74 Registered: 10-2001 |
Harpo, Is it illegal for a mother to be an alien and live on the planet Voltex 9 and have a father in Maplewood with a child in school? Take off your bliners and stand on the corner of Parker Avenue and Boyden after school and tell me how many kids walking from Colombia are walking to their houses in Newark & Irvington. | ||
| jet Citizen Username: Jet Post Number: 355 Registered: 7-2001 |
It is well known amongst folks in our bordering areas that we are soft on the issue of illegal students, even if we call them illegal students. | ||
| mtierney Citizen Username: Mtierney Post Number: 481 Registered: 3-2001 |
Nice to hear that someone remembers when this was a really big issue in the early '80s. I recall a year in which 67 illegals were asked to leave CHS. If a child lives with his divorced father in Newark, but his mother lives in Maplewood, it is my understanding that the kid can't go to school here. The district where the child is domiciled is the district he/she attends.  There is no solution to this situation as long as those who object are classified as mean-spirited racists. That pretty much slams the lid on any discourse. | ||
| harpo Citizen Username: Harpo Post Number: 1133 Registered: 6-2001 |
Martha Stewart? Must be a good thing. You see black kids going to school and make up stories to fit your preconceived ideas. If you've got some proof there are illegal students, take it to the authorities. I don't come from the planet that affords kryptonite eyes, so standing on the corner of Parker and Boyden watching kids walk by wouldn't prove anything about where they were coming from or why they were headed in any particular direction. Kids don't always go home after school -- or is that illegal too? | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 2718 Registered: 5-2001  |
Harpo, This discussion isn't about black kids. When I was at CHS there were white illegals as well. Sheesh. | ||
| harpo Citizen Username: Harpo Post Number: 1134 Registered: 6-2001 |
mtierney, I was referring to a child who lives with his mother in Maplewood but spends a night with his father in Newark. We allow such things when parents split up and the father moves to Millburn. Where has anyone in this thread called anyone a mean-spririted racist? The people doing the dishonest name-calling are the ones who agree with you. Racist or not, I think there is something mean-spirited about seeing a kid go to school via taxi and then posting on a public message board that kid should be regarded suspiciously. I don't think mikecappy would like it if I posted about the way his kid came to and from school. Thanks for the info that there were 67 illegal students in the 80s. My understanding is that if there are any, there are far less today (less than 20). | ||
| harpo Citizen Username: Harpo Post Number: 1135 Registered: 6-2001 |
mem, this discussion is about black kids. You post this remark often, and you are always wrong when you do. I get the impression that you think you will be turning the tables on people who bring the subject out into the open. The subject of illegal students as CHS in particular is about black kids suspected to be coming from Irvington and Newark. You're not going to convince anybody otherwise. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 2720 Registered: 5-2001 |
Listen, Harpo, who loves to tell people they are wrong, When did you graduate CHS? Huh? I did. I have seven siblings who did, as well as countless friends of all ages, as well as a close friend who worked for the BOE and we all have the same story. In your little, clever, roundabout way you are calling us racists, and it's disgraceful. It's disgraceful that you drag "black" kids in with your holier than thou attitude. It's extremely apparent to the non-myopic of us that you are in the wrong and looking for a fight as usual. | ||
| mikecappy Citizen Username: Mikecappy Post Number: 75 Registered: 10-2001 |
Harpo, My child is too young for school, but I intend to change it before she is of school age. I too was lured here by the allure of Maplewood, utopia in the burbs. That ended 4 days after I bought my house when my car was stolen. If you want to talk about the police chase on my block this past week or the drug deals, open the gates Harpo. I assume you mean that there are 20 illegal students per grade, correct? | ||
| Dave Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6322 Registered: 4-1998 |
Why didn't you interogate the suspect? Or did you want the Board of Ed. to step up to the plate and expose taxpayers to paying for lawsuits based on your hunch? | ||
| mikecappy Citizen Username: Mikecappy Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2001 |
Illegal Student Ambassador Dave, I was in bed with Strep Throat. Normally, I'm already on the crappy 7:44am to Penn. Why doesn't the BOE stand on the corner of Parker and Boyden and spend zero tax dollars? They can stand there with nets and catch them like butterflies! | ||
| Dave Citizen Username: Dave Post Number: 6324 Registered: 4-1998 |
Ignorance King Mikecappy, What's your evidence for locating these Students of Mass Destruction? | ||
| harpo Citizen Username: Harpo Post Number: 1137 Registered: 6-2001 |
Listen, mem (to adopt your attempt to be bossy) You should be helping set mikecappy and jet straight, not me. How many illegal students in your CHS classes came to school in taxis? Are they profiling the wrong kids? Should they be looking suspiciously at white kids going to white neighborhoods as well? I am not calling you or anybody a racist, even in a roundabout way. (I'm quite direct with my words). CHS is different from when you, your sibs and your friends went to school there. Discussions today on MOL about the schools largely revolve around the increased number of black kids there. And it is not disgraceful of me to say it openly. I'm not looking for a fight. I'm looking to end one. Kids of any color should be allowed to come to school in taxis without getting posted about on MOL as "illegal students." Agreed? | ||
| Addy Citizen Username: Addy Post Number: 36 Registered: 12-2003  |
Dave has a good point, being imprudent about handling this could turn out to be very costly. What's the history on tackling this issue? | ||
| harpo Citizen Username: Harpo Post Number: 1138 Registered: 6-2001 |
mikecappy, Do you also suspect the schoolchild you saw of stealing your car? Selling drugs on your block? Who are "them"? Maybe you're just not feeling well, like you said. Nope. 20 for CHS in toto. |
