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Brett
Citizen
Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 682
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 8:07 pm: |     |
Greentree sorry to say you’re wrong.
The manager informed you of their policy for good reason. What if 10 people saw you with your coffee and decided to grab coffee on the way to breakfast next week? He loses 9.50. Then it snowballs from there. Some guy who comes by every day for a cup of coffee stops because he realizes the coffee isn’t great.
Kids are different, sometimes they only eat 1 type of cereal or something and it’s tolerated.
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clkelley
Citizen
Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 96
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 8:18 pm: | |
Am I the only person here who actually likes the coffee at the Maple Leaf? I was just there this weekend and even made a comment about it. So did my husband. Are we weird?
(don't answer that too quickly. :-) |
TomR
Citizen
Username: Tomr
Post Number: 105
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 8:21 pm: | |
One man's opinion.
If you don't like the manner in which a proprietor manages their establishment, don't go there, and tell the proprietor why you're not comming back.
If you like the place, tell the proprietor.
TomR. |
sbenois
Citizen
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 10719
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 8:27 pm: | |
I wish the manager would think less about you importing your coffee and...
a lot more about putting some freaking SWEET AND LOW ON THE TABLE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BEG FOR IT.
Thankey.
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ML1
Citizen
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 1540
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 8:45 pm: | |
clkelly,
I agree that the coffee at the Maple Leaf is very good diner coffee. and no, that's not an oxymoron. If you're a lifelong Jersey guy like me, you appreciate a good cup o' joe in a diner, made in a Bunn coffee maker. And the Maple Leaf makes a good cup.
I love good espresso, but it wouldn't occur to me to bring my own coffee to an establishment that brews a good, old-fashioned cup of coffee. |
just me fromsouthorange
Citizen
Username: Jmfromsorange
Post Number: 81
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 9:39 pm: | |
hi greentree-
my sister is a lot worse! she has two kids and she and my brother in law will go to tgif or bennigans with mcdonalds for one of the boys. |
harpo
Citizen
Username: Harpo
Post Number: 1165
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:41 am: | |
greentree,
Maybe you should try offering to pay for the house coffee even if you aren't going to drink it. Try explaining to a manager or the waitstaff upfront that you can only drink your own beverage, but ask that the charge for a coffee be put on your bill. |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 1980
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:57 am: | |
Some of you are very funny & I would offer to pay for the coffee if I were not ordering food!
Yuppie, huh? I guess I'll accept the label & quite happily I might add. Since the the "y" in "yuppie" stands for "young" I didn't think I qualified anymore. 
FWIW - I love the taste of coffee; I savor and worship it the way an oenophile does wine. I was forced to give up caffeine 17 years ago for medical reasons & I suffered many years until the gourmet coffee shops became fashionable. In fact, the reason I drink decaf espresso shots is because that's the only way to get the flavor and strength I love. So, technically, my coffee habits are not part of the "yuppie trend" or "muppie trend" (middle aged upwardly-mobile?).
My yuppie/muppie/luppie (lesbian upwardly... etc.)-ness comes more from my Coach addiction and inability to clean my own house.
Which brings another question - if I can afford Starbucks, Coach and a house cleaner, amI still in the "upwardly mobile" phase of my life?
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Tom Reingold
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 2062
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:00 am: | |
I thought the UP in yuppy stood for urban professional. Yet I think yuppy is a clear enough word for those of us who are neither young nor urban.
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
There is nothing
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Wilkanoid
Citizen
Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 103
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:18 am: | |
Back to the point, you would pay corkage for bringing wine into an establishment if they don't serve the wine of your choice -- you pay for dinner then, too. I'm not sure what the difference is.
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themp
Citizen
Username: Themp
Post Number: 485
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:21 am: | |
"Coach" the sit-com? With Dauber? Ok. Some people really like that show.
I think the root of the problem is here-
"FWIW - I love the taste of coffee; I savor and worship it the way an oenophile does wine."
So it's ok in cases like yours to bring in outside coffee? Or ok for non-specialists? You see your consumer tastes as very special and refined, and that is a little bit yuppie. |
greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 1982
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:13 am: | |
Themp-
My only point was that my need for BYOC predates the yuppie coffee trend, which seems to be a link that several folks were trying to make. I did not, however, reject the notion that I do indeed have my 'uppie moments.
Tom- leave me to my dreams, OK? If I want to think that someone is calling me young, who are you to crush me? 
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harpo
Citizen
Username: Harpo
Post Number: 1174
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:13 am: | |
greentree,
Isn't the cost of a cup of coffee in a diner plus your cost in making a triple decaf espresso with soy milk at home still less than what you would pay buying triple decaf espresso w/soy milk from a vendor? Offering to pay for the accommodation might have gotten you exactly what you wanted at the same cost or less.
I'm not at all sure the manager would have agreed to your offer, but if he had, you'd be ahead.
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greenetree
Supporter
Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 1983
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:22 am: | |
Harpo-
Perhaps. My issue is with merchants who choose to nickle and dime customers over establishing good will.
My first job in HS was as a waiter/cook at a family restaurant. One day, a family of 5 came in with a baby who was about a year old. The child was getting a little fussy, so I offered the mom a pack of saltines for the baby. The owner wanted me to put the crackers on their bill. I refused. Do you think that family would have returned had I told them what the owner said?
My only point, and I see that there are many opinions, is that he lost nothing by my bringing my own coffee except for my good will. It was never about saving money; simply enjoying my meal. But, it's true. Next time I want to have eggs and coffee, we will cook at home. So, the owner of the Mapleleaf loses more than my 95 cents. |
Boozy the Clown
Citizen
Username: Boozy
Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:51 am: | |
2C:33-27a.(2)
No person who owns or operates a restaurant, dining room, or other public place where food or liquid refreshments are sold or served to the general public...shall charge any admission fee or cover, corkage or service charge...that patrons may bring and consume their own wine or malt alcoholic beverages in a portion of the premises which is open to the public.
It's on the books and the books don't lie. Only lawyers and guilty people lie. Just my opinion. |
harpo
Citizen
Username: Harpo
Post Number: 1177
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:52 am: | |
greenetree,
I'm not sure the manager would agree with your calculus. He might think he'd lose more from having it be known that some people get to carry in coffee or other beverages, so then he'd have to allow everybody to do it or else risk more good will. Maybe lots of people come into the diner just to sit with their friends who are eating but they don't order anything but a beverage. If they bring their own beverage, they are still taking up space, he doesn't make money, etc.
But I don't know. Maybe his profit margin on coffee is bigger than the one he makes on eggs. |
clkelley
Citizen
Username: Clkelley
Post Number: 99
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:58 am: | |
greenetree,
Maybe you could offer this solution. Ask the waitress to bring an empty cup. Tell her to charge you for a cup of coffee.
Then when the cup arrives, pour your own concotion into it.
Nobody sees you drinking from your fancy travel mug (therefore no dent in business), manager makes his 95c, you get to drink your favorite cup of coffee. Everybody is happy.
If I were you, I'd call him/her up and see if that will fly. I'm not saying it will as people aren't always rational, but it's worth a try.
(I said I like the ML coffee, but I meant the high-test kind. never had their decaf, but decaf served mostly anywhere tastes ghastly.) |
Earlster
Citizen
Username: Earlster
Post Number: 115
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 7:45 pm: | |
Greentree,
so much fuss about decaf. Shame on you.
While living in Hoboken I was a very regular at a small bar (people called hey Norm when I walked in). I like Weiss beer, which they didn't carry. The owner tried to get it from his distributer, but they didn't carry it either. So he told me to just bring in a case myself, he then stored it and then charged me like a corking fee when I ordered one.
At a place where I'm not a regular, I would never expect to be able to bring any outside foods/drinks.
On the other hand, I have to agree that the coffee situation at Diners is usually horrible. |
TomR
Citizen
Username: Tomr
Post Number: 110
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 8:37 pm: | |
Boozy,
Thanks,
TomR. |
CFA
Citizen
Username: Cfa
Post Number: 1023
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 4:04 am: | |
I agree with Sbenois....I wish they'd put the damn Sweet-N-Low on the tables. You sort of have to beg to get one.  |
tjohn
Citizen
Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2236
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 7:12 am: | |
MOL is great. Where else can you have discussions about the issues of Iraq AND BYO coffee on the same discussion board. |
viva
Citizen
Username: Viva
Post Number: 352
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:48 pm: | |
Pre-dating "yuppiesh", BYOC is nonetheless, obnoxious. |
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen
Username: Casey
Post Number: 530
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 11:12 pm: | |
I love the coffee at the Maple Leaf. But I'm not keen on the food. So last time I went there I brought my own cheese omelet, and ordered a coffee.
For some reason the owner got really mad at me. |
Dave
Citizen
Username: Dave
Post Number: 6377
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:37 am: | |
Their fries are truly amazing and the service very good. Last time I was their with Sbenois the coffee was also quite good. |
sbenois
Citizen
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 10725
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 7:30 am: | |
But I had to beg for the freaking Sweet and Low.
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The Cafe Sbenois is pleased to announce that a fresh batch of Yumsters just arrived thanks to the pinpoint accuracy of the Sbenois Deer Howitzer. Stop in today and ask for one with cheese.
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mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 971
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 9:29 am: | |
I was part-owner of a restaurant in NY (a long time ago) and it was illegal to allow outside food or beverage to be bought in. Even coffee. The restaurant was subject to a fine if caught.
The theory was to prevent restaurant owners to use an outside kitchen (inspection issues) and then bring food in (a lot of owners like to make some desserts at home) but the law covered everyone.
I am pretty sure the law is the same in NJ. |
kevin
Citizen
Username: Kevin
Post Number: 196
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 9:48 am: | |
In regards to that NJ law:
2C:33-27a.(2)
No person who owns or operates a restaurant, dining room, or other public place where food or liquid refreshments are sold or served to the general public...shall charge any admission fee or cover, corkage or service charge...that patrons may bring and consume their own wine or malt alcoholic beverages in a portion of the premises which is open to the public.
Does this mean that I can bring a 40 with me to drink with my breakfast at the Mapleleaf?
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