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greenetree
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Several years ago, my mother called me and ripped me a new &^%(*&@ because I did not send her a Valentine. She sends one every year, along with smashed chocolate, even tho I tell her that the chocolate gets thrown out.

At the time, I protested that I hadn't sent her a Valentine in years & that it is a silly Hallmark holiday that The Spouse and I do not even regularly observe (depends on the mood we're in - forced romance on schedule isn't our thing).

So, in order to keep the peace, I started sending cards. This year, I am not. I am over 40 and she has grandkids who make her Valentines.

Am I a really bad daughter? Who else sends Valentines to someone other than their spouse/partner/boyfriend/girlfriend?
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redY67
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Valentines Day is such a Hallmark holiday. I not only don't send cards to anyone else, my husband and I don't really celebrate it either.
Sounds like just a guilt trip from your mother. (My mom is just the same!)
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jem
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

er...I do. Valentines Day was really important to my grandfather, who was an incurable romantic. He always sent all of us cards and we always spent alot of time picking out just the right card for him, for our grandmother and for our parents. My grandparents have been gone for many years, but I still send Valentines cards to my immediate family - kids, parents, sister, nephews. It makes me feel connected to my grandfather and to my past.

But that's just me. My answer to your question is: No, you're not bad at all, greenetree. If it has no meaning for you, why do it?
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gozerbrown
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My husband and I have always celebrated Valentine's Day, but not because it's a holiday -- we always just look for an excuse to buy each other something, eat dinner out, and write something nice in a card for each other. I don't have a problem with the holiday at all. Just another way of showing my appreciation to him.

As far as other people go, I used to send cards to my family, but I've really gotten out of the habit. I don't get to the store or post office on time to do it. But then again, I'm a real card person, no matter what the occasion. Our parents and some other relatives send us cards, even though we're adults. (It's always nice if there's a little something inside the card, too!)
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Brett
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Send your Mother a card, case closed.
That's just what you do for Mothers.
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have godparents (at 49) who are card-a-holics. I always send them to them. Did to my parents, too, even they were in their 70's. Much as I found it a little much, I kinda honored it as something that meant something to them.

I draw the line at pets...
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Nohero
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Um, I would follow the rule that someone who sends you a Valentine would like one in return. There is no logic to this, it just is.

But pets definitely deserve a Valentine. After all, if they could shop, they'd get you one ...
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Lizziecat
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 8:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always sent one to my mother because she was old and lived alone and she liked to get cards. I also send one to each of my grandchildren because I love them, and because little kids like to get mail.
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jab
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will always send my mother a Valentine's Day card, because it is important to her. However, my brothers and I quietly stopped sending Valentine's Day cards to each other at some point in or after college when our mother sopped monitoring the inter-sibling exchange of Valentine's Day cards.
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shh
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mom sent my kids each a Valentine in the mail, with a couple of bucks, even though she will see them in person on Friday. Even the 22 month old loved it. " MY card!"
I generally give my mom a little something. I'm TERRIBLE about sending cards, but I know it's important to her. In the past, I've just given my mom and my mother-in-law cards, but my dad gets insulted if I forget to mention him. Luckily we live near enough so we get to see them. I will make sure to have my kids make their grandparents Valentine's. (When they get sent is another story.)
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naborly
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Send your mom a card -- life is too short to quibble. Make her happy.
Just find a place that sells them cheap so you don't feel bitter about being "used" by Hallmark.
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CFA
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 4:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to send my mother a Valentine every year but from now on, I'm not. Here's the reason.

My mother doesn't go out shopping as much as she did and she LOVES QVC. For Christmas, we got her a sizeable QVC gift certificate. Well, I found out recently that my sister ran some errands for my mother and my mother gave my sister the gift certificate that we got for her. I thought that was tasteless and tacky and I'm never buying another gift. Period!!!!!!!
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ajc
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 6:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would love to be able to send my mother a Valentine's Day card...
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CFA
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 7:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're absolutely correct. That was a good comment to put things into perspective. Thank You.
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Ruck1977
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just mailed my mother's card!
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greenetree
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Art- you are 100% correct.
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Wilkanoid
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't send my mother Vday cards, although I should. Spouse and I use the day as an excuse to book a sitter and go out on a date. No gifts.

I SHOULD send her a card though, now that you mentioned it.
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algebra2
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 9:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Back in college I broke up with my long time boyfriend in December. February comes and he's crying into the phone that it's Valentine's Day and he's all alone (he was calling from a Knick game where he was with friends -- all alone?). Anyway -- I told him off and said that it was a Hallmark Holiday yada yada yada ... stop calling me. Well -- fast forward 14 years and we're happily married. If I get a Valentine's Day gift it's always the cheapest tackiest silliest piece of crap he can find.

No, I don't send them to my parents. My dad sends one each year signed "a secret admirer".
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Unhinged
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I made it known to one and all that I don't like cards for environmental reasons, it's just one industry I can't support with all the paper waste. Send her an email card, but if she doesn't do email, send her a picture of a treeless landscape and a landfill dump. Just kidding! If she gets that disappointed by not getting a card, humor her and just do it.
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bpaandco
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My dad sent Valentine's Day cards to all the girls in the family. Each year it was different. Big ones, small ones, silly ones, sentimental ones. I'm with art. I wish my dad were still here so that I could send him one, and I wish I still got one. It's a small gesture to let whom ever know that you are thinking of them and lets them know you care.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

e-cards are fraught with viruses and spyware! I suggest writing your own letter or email.
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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ReallyTrying
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate VD but always send a card to my parents, as they met on 2/14. This year will mark 50 years since they met.

The reason I dislike this day so much is I feel so compelled to spend money that I balk at the idea. I'm really not a bad person otherwise.
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Unhinged
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom,
You look great...
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ajc
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BP,

That does it! I'm going out right now and buying all my daughter's, daughter-in-laws, and all eight grandchildren Valentine cards...

The last few years I've really dropped the ball. Being a father, and a grandfather, your post has really struck a very emotional and sentimental cord that I feel I need to address.

Thank you Greentree, CFA, actually, I would like to thank everyone for all the heart felt comments, both for and against sending cards...

Both my parents passed away in 1988, and my mother never forgot to send my five children and me a cute little card to tell us how much she loved us.

This thread has reminded me how much we appreciated her, and how much we all miss her and those silly little Valentine cards.

Happy Valentine's Day everyone.
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mas
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sobbing uncontrollably ... I'm mailing my Mom a card (her generation's symbol for 'my kid loves me'), flowers and take her on a tour of the Hershey chocolate factory....

seriously, e-mail cards just aren't the same.
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shoshannah
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 7:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom, what's spyware?
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Joan
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sending your mother a vlentine is such a simple gesture. If it will make her happy, send her one.
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Elizabeth
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 7:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with ajc. My 99% perfect mother has a few eccentricities which bug me--but I try like crazy to indulge them all because she deserves it. My 80% aggravating father died a year ago and I'd LOVE to have 10+ more years of putting up with him. This Valentine's Day would have been my parents' 59th wedding anniversary. Happy Anniversary Daddy.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Spyware collects data from your computer and feeds it up to collecting companies. I ran spysweeper on my computer and it found dozens of spyware programs going on. They often read your keystrokes directly. Spysweeper normally runs all the time on your computer in the background, for maximum protection. It's a scary world. And even scarier is that some so-called anti-spyware programs are actually spyware.

As far as I know, spyware runs only on Windows, so if you are using MacOS, Linux, or UNIX, you are safe for the time being.

A lot of spyware gets on your computer because you unknowingly agree to it when you agree to end user license agreements (EULA's) when you download software or go to a website. Clever, huh? There was even a virus that entered that way a little over a year ago. It said that you agree to let the software use your computer for mass mailings.
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ajc, right on. If my parents were still alive, I'd send them cards, and my grandma, too. And my mother was a LULU!

Got one for my husband. Going to the Hallmark store near work tomorrow for silly nonsense for our daughter. Yeah, it's all tacky and overpriced, but V Day isn't the day to impose my values.

Come to think of it, I like all that chocoloate and cliche stuff, too! Happy Valentine's Day!
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gozerbrown
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 3:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last night my dad said that he didn't send any cards out this year, but he'll send me one if he finds any that are 50% off after tomorrow. Thanks, Dad!
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Gene Z
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As a Husband, Father & Grandfather I send cards to all my girls for St. V's Day. The hard part is finding cards for grown daughters that aren't overly slobbery sentimental, or stupidly humorless.

Z
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argon_smythe
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Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 9:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the name of all that's right in the world, the woman carried you in her womb for nine months, and that's probably the least she's done for you. You can't send a stupid card? It makes her happy, costs you next to nothing, so just do it.
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for this thread, greenetree. I trudged over to the vehicle inspection station in Newark on Saturday morning. Mapquest estimated it would take me 14 minutes. It was wrong about that and about the route, too. The wait was about two hours. I wanted to race home, but instead, on the way home, I bought cards for my wife and both of my daughters, at the Walgreens on Irvington Ave and Manor Place, in Newark, on the Maplewood border.

I don't think my mother and I have ever exhchanged Valentine's Day cards, so I didn't bother. By her usual magic, though, her cards to my daughters arrived on precisely the right day.
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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ajc
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"...the Walgreens on Irvington Ave and Manor Place, in Newark, on the Maplewood border."

Isn't that a great place to shop Tom? I think the folks over on Springfield Avenue would love to have one like that to shop at. It would also be a lot safer place to go, being so close to the new police station and all...
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Tom Reingold
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a weird place, rather like Drug Fair, with an odd variety of merchandise. It's nice having it there so close, and being open 24 hours a day. But yes, I'm sure the folks near Springfield Ave would like having a place like that.
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