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Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 407
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 6:43 am: |     |
Have to share. Just used this paint yesterday to do our living room walls in "Feather Gold," and the trim in "Moon Rise." Outstanding paint! Truly one-coat latex, quick drying. I think it's even on sale. We have plaster walls, and they had been a sort of off-white painted a year or so ago (to sell the house, no doubt). Anyway, this stuff covered scuffs, spackle easily. Don't know when we've worked with such good paint.
...Just in case any of you have the winter blues, are craving a change of wall color, and want to do it yourself! And, had a pretty helpful person at the HD on Springfield. No, I don't work there, I'm just so high on this paint's quality I wanted to let other do it yourself-ers know. I *think* I'd read about it in a Consumer Reports, but I throw out my back issues... |
Wilkanoid
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Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 115
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:02 am: | |
I don't know if it's just me and my painting abilities, or the colors I used, but I didn't have the same great experience with Behr that you did. I found I had to do at least 2 coats to get the color right.
I swear by Benjamin Moore paint, in any color. Most professional painters do, as well. |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 114
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:23 am: | |
Our painter uses Benjamin Moore as well and it looks great. He did say thought that when he does dark colors again (I have some red, burgandy and dark blue walls) he would recommend Sherwin Williams, which tends to cover with fewer coats than Moore in the darker colors. |
Sylad
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Username: Sylad
Post Number: 234
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:44 am: | |
I have had mixed results with Behr. I like Sherwin Williams best and next after that I would use Benjamin Moore. I know many people that like Lowes brand, but I have not tried it. Sherwin Williams has a VIP program, all you have to do it ask and they give you a card that give you 20 points off non-sale items. |
Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 409
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 12:19 pm: | |
These things are always individual, and I guess the color you're covering matters, but I thought I'd let you know that at least according to Consumer Reports' Web site, both the Behr and the Valspar (Lowe's brand) got CR Best Buy recommendations in a number of interior categories in 2003. The name brand that turned up was Dutch Boy. Benjamin Moore got a good rating for Very Sunny Rooms due to fade resistence.
Really cool article on the site just on interior paint! |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 4671
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 1:06 pm: | |
A few years ago Behr paint had the consistency of milk and that was one of its good points. 
I think the whole line has been redone and according to Consumers Reports (for whatever that is worth) it is number one rated in most colors.
I used their high gloss latex this summer to repaint some cabinets and was more than satisfied. One coat coverage is more in the painter than the paint. Most us amateurs put paint on to thinly to avoid the dreded drips. |
Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 410
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 1:15 pm: | |
It was somewhere between Hollandaise and gravy -- not at all thin. Minimal drips, even though our 10 year old was helping. I'd definitely use it again. Tried the eggshell finish for walls and semi-gloss for trim.
If we do a ceiling, I want to try one of those new ceiling paints that stay a color until dry. I always have trouble with that.
I tend to rely on CR, and so far that's stood me in good stead with appliances and the like, and saved me money over our tendency to be knee-jerk name brand types. I guess they blink once in awhile; it just hasn't happened to me as yet. |
us2innj
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Username: Us2innj
Post Number: 989
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 4:35 pm: | |
Did not have good results with the one and only time we used Behr. Two coats and it still looked really runny. This was about six years ago, and now have someone local doing it. He, and most of the professional painters we know, use Benjamin Moore. |
Miss L Toe
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Username: Miss_l_toe
Post Number: 17
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 6:04 pm: | |
Is non-drip paint available in the US?
In my native England, it's the most popular paint for ceilings, windowframes and doors as it doesn't drip at all and has a much thicker consistency than any paint I've seen here.
I also haven't seen any "Matchpots" which are tiny little pots of paint, complete with a brush. They come in various colors and finishes so you can try it out at home (it will paint about 1 square yard) and see if you like it or not. If you like it, you can then buy the pot in the larger sizes.
Made In England |
Maplemom
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Username: Maplemom
Post Number: 100
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 8:19 pm: | |
I love B.Moore coverage. We used it for most of the rooms in our house and will for the outside as well. But I have used Behr in my kids rooms (nice soft yellow and nice icy blue) and been pleased. Ricardi's isn't open on Sunday's and I think both projects fell on a Sunday where I ended up at Home Depot.
We painted our basement Tennis Court White (great color...) by Ralph Lauren. DON'T use Ralph Lauren. It's so expensive and the coverage is terrible. It was for a small room and I loved the color, couldn't match it well in Behr (another Sunday at HD). Lousy paint, had to go back and buy more!
I love that matchpots idea!
I've always wished that you could buy a paint swatch that was 1' x 1' for $1. I have a really tough time color choosing on 1" squares. We are about to re-paint outside so I painted a large piece of plywood and moved it around outside to see the color in different lighting. It would have been so much easier having a bigger swatch, but maybe that's why they don't have them...forces you to make errors and buy more and more. (and more).
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clueless
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Username: Clueless
Post Number: 15
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 8:40 pm: | |
I like the new Behr Paint and also the Valspar. I read the same Consumer Reports and Valspar has been a Consumer Reports favorite for many years. I know most painters like Bejamin Moore, however I tried it and would NOT use it again. I found the Benjamine Moore splattered a lot more than the others. I painted the room a sage green and by the time I was done my entire hand was green. I thought I was turning into the HULK. The other paints did not give me the same problem.
My friend hired painters and they made an agreement that thye would get reimbursed if the friends bought the paint. The only caveat was it had to be Benjamie Moore. Is it possible contractors get a larger discount with Benjamin Moore? |
peteglider
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Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 472
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:54 am: | |
I've had good luck using Behr for trim, where its mostly brushed. But for rolling on walls -- very mixed results, at best.
AFter trying Sherwin Williams, Ben Moore, And behr -- I've come back to Sears for wall paint.
First of all, its a far better buying experience than Home Depot. Its also a heck of a lot less per gallon (when on sale) than B Moore. I've had good luck painting lighter color walls, and then recently much darker grey and blue walls, too.
BTW -- the worst paint I've encountered is the Ralph Lauren stuff sold at Home Depot. Great colors, but terrible coverage and runny (maybe its the same as Behr - with a different label?). I used the exterior version for some trim a couple of years ago, and then bought more to recoat -- terrible both times.
Pete |
ashear
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Username: Ashear
Post Number: 980
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:59 am: | |
A tip on the Ralph Lauren, go to Riccardi and they will mix the Ralph Lauren colors in Ben Moore paint. |
shh
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Username: Shh
Post Number: 939
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 2:12 pm: | |
Hmmm...what to do?
We're having a friend help us paint a room starting tomorrow and I've picked my range of colors: charcoal (hopefully with a sand texture for walls), cream semi-gloss for trim and a light buff for the ceiling (flat).
My husband also prefers Sears' Best (not on sale this week), but after reading this thread, I'm not sure what to do! For the sand-texture, it's either Ralph Lauren or another one from HD, I'm leaning toward getting the RL at Ricciardi but my husband doesn't like those guys. Anyone use a different textured paint they'd recommend? |
alia
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Username: Alia
Post Number: 140
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 4:43 am: | |
I was told at Home Depot that Ralph Lauren paint is made by Glidden.
The guys at Riccardi said that B Moore is keeping small paint shops in business because pros like the quality and BM won't sell to large HD or Lowe's chains.
My dining room in my new house is being painted red this week, making my husband VERY nervous, but I'm very excited. Moving in next week... |
Cynicalgirl
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Username: Cynicalgirl
Post Number: 420
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 6:31 am: | |
I had a sort of "claret" colored living room in last house, with creamy white fake wainscotting and crown molding. It looked great! We were the first people we knew to go for such strong color, and ended up with a lot of friend's "copyin' offa us" (as our daughter would say). Got the idea from Toy Story, I think. Really loved it. Dark does shows the dust tho' more than the lighter colors (but worth it). |
redY67
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 234
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 6:59 am: | |
We tried painting one of our rooms with Ralph Lauren paint and it was a HORRIBLE experience. The paint dripped, didn't cover, and was VERY streaky. I have heard this from several people. The one nice thing, they did stand behind thier paint, and let us exchange it at the Sherwin Williams store for something else. |
greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 1999
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 9:17 am: | |
Shh-
Take your RL color swatch to the Sherwin-Williams store on Springfield & they'll match it for you to a "T". We've done this with all of our bolder color choices.
Also, re: matchpots. That's a great idea. We've always bitten the bullet & bought quarts of colors we were thinking about. We then slather the paint on the walls, near a window, in dark corners, etc. Look at it in the night, day, rain, sun. In fact, we did this for our barn-red dining room and when we were choosing colors to paint the exterior, we painted large pieces of poster board to see how the colors we chose would work togther. It can take a week to a month to choose a color (depending on the weather) and is a bit expensive. But, we've never regretted our color choices when the job was done.
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themp
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Username: Themp
Post Number: 520
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 12:01 pm: | |
I used a dark blue and after just 10 months, it has noticably faded - if you take a picture down off the wall it has a darker rectangle behind it.
Considering the amount of labor involved versus the cost of paint, I figure might as well go with Benjamin Moore, but I know results vary.
I used Ralph Lauren and didn't like the lack of body. |
Richard O'Connor
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Username: Roconn
Post Number: 149
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 7:46 am: | |
Hey all
Behr: Painted 4 years ago the bulk of the living room and dining room with it. GREAT results, none of the problems that I've read about above. I think there must have been a re-formulation of the product.
Easy Living (Sears): Used this for the bottom half of the Dining Room (4 years ago) again, no problems and although it took many coats (burgundy over off white) it looks great still.
Ben Moore: During the 'rebuild' the contractor's painter used this on the second floor bedrooms, I didn't really do much of that work but it too looks great.
Behr Redux: Because the hall upstairs (rebuilt) mathced the stairwell and living room (not re-built) the painter had to use Behr (which I had) to paint those. He got 1 more gallon to make sure he had enough and he told me he was quite pleased with the end result and felt the price was better.
Sears/Easy Living Factoid -- This is one of the OLDER brands out there and probably hasn't been changed much in the last 100 years or so ...
Most any decent place selling paint can do an exact color match to an existing chip ... unless their color-match equipment is down.
EASY LIVING is on SALE right now .. all varieties from Kitchen and bath to Lifetime ... Also, The Sears "Bob Villa Signature" is on sale (about half price) but the stock is getting thin in a lot of stores as they are discontinuing the line (I dont' know what that says but its formulated much like Easy living as it tints exactly the same).
I believe that Sears Paints are made by Sherwin Williams (which I've never used myself) and what I can say about Sears paints is that 20 years + ago I painted my parents house interior with it and excepting 2 rooms that needed to be updated most of the house does not look like it needs a new coat of paint ... which says something about the longevity of the product. (I used Easy Living 15 year at the time.)
One hint .... never buy paint that isn't on sale .... Anywhere ....
Richard (ROC)
--Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark; professionals built the Titanic.--
--AIM: ROConn |
tourne
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Username: Tourne
Post Number: 311
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 5:35 pm: | |
For those who don't like the smell, Benjamin Moore has a great paint called Eco-spec that is very low VO(volatile organic chemicals) and has almost no odor! Works great. |
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