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NCJanow(akaLibraryLady)
Citizen Username: Librarylady
Post Number: 1217 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 4:54 pm: |
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I won't attack you, Ff. I don't play tennis at all but I suppose that players would really like thge opportunity to play in all weather. But why, if this is being considered at all, shouldn't the village make the money not some other business? NCJ aka LibraryLady On a coffee break..or something like it.
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ffof
Citizen Username: Ffof
Post Number: 1956 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 5:03 pm: |
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oh I didn't mean you, per se LL, just I didn't want anyone attacking . Yes, it seems that the town ought to make something. Why not just buy (rent)the bubble from the company and then have a winter membership (like pool membership?) to cover costs. |
   
Mayhewdrive
Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 797 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 5:47 pm: |
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The argument against the courts by the Middle School was there was no bathroom. Why can't they open the bathrooms by the pool and while we're at at, how about a bubble over the pool for all year swimming and a bubble over SOPAC, Shop Rite & Beifus to hide those eyesores.  |
   
mary032
Citizen Username: Mary032
Post Number: 28 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 6:54 pm: |
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Why not a bubble over the entire South Orange, and hide our shame from the rest of the world. Hide from the public eye fiascos like the Beifus abortion, the Village Market horror, the Quarry disaster, the Animal Shelter travesty, the Gaslight Commons atrocity, the Church Street carastrophe, the SOPAC joke, the Dugouts insult, the tennis bubble monstrosity, and the circus of our government. Yeah, that's what we need. A big bubble to hide our face in it. |
   
mary032
Citizen Username: Mary032
Post Number: 29 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 6:56 pm: |
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Happy Valentine to all.  |
   
Mayhewdrive
Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 798 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 7:42 pm: |
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Wow, Mary! A woman after my own heart. If I wasn't already married..... |
   
Sylad
Citizen Username: Sylad
Post Number: 225 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 9:13 pm: |
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We had some of these where I went to college, I say had because after a few years they were taken down. Students would climb the bubble at night and then slide down, dozens of kids broke both ankles as they slid down and hit the ground feet first. There was a 10-12 foot fence around the bubble but that did not seem to stop them from the midnight climb.
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Marc
Citizen Username: Bautisma
Post Number: 96 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 12:38 am: |
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And when I went to college they planted some trees. The kids would climb them at midnight and slide down them. Then girls and boys would climb them and use them for necking. Maybe its a good idea to chop down every tree in the village |
   
Mayhewdrive
Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 799 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 12:49 am: |
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Marc....they're already working on that.... |
   
just me fromsouthorange
Citizen Username: Jmfromsorange
Post Number: 92 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 2:37 am: |
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who's going to run this tennis program? and what about orange lawn? this is a bad idea! why don't we build in in one of the trustee's yards instead?
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peteglider
Citizen Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 471 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 9:28 am: |
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There are some *hideous* homes and commercial buildings in SO. I cannot imagine that anyone with any taste or sense would have approved them (the most glaring example, that awful office building across from the town hall - that is ridiculous not only from a style perspective but from its scale (exacerabated by its being a box). So -- let's hope that this, or any potential commercial development, are judged not only on aesthetics -- but on whether it makes rational business sense. (yes, I know there are issues about public land use, too...) That said -- I do not play tennis, so have no personal affinity for something like this. So its somewhat "NIMBY" that I think that this is absurdly ugly. But -- if it turns out that I am in the minority, that tennis players from SO and from the area would flock here, play tennis, spend money at our fine coming gourment market, buy tickets at our fine coming SOPAC, eat lots of fine dinners and drink many martinis, far be it from me to stand in the way of progress. But ask me -- and I'll say that anything this ugly cannot ultimately be a positive contribution to our village. Pete |
   
mrosner
Citizen Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 977 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 1:40 pm: |
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ffof: That was basically suggested, only as a 50-50 partnership. The key word is suggested. No vote yet, no public discussion yet and no idea if there is even a demand for indoor tennis (although I bet someone will show me exactly how much potential there is). There were legal issues also as why the bubble cannot be done by the pool, although I don't think we were given a definitive answer. There is also already a staff at the Baird center. Unlike the dugouts which were bought to the trustees by residents and supported by most (based on emails, letters, etc) I have not heard any real interest or demand from residents. I can live without a bubble and I am not convinced there is a sufficient need or demand. By the way, for those who do not know, the bubbles would be up for four months.
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Mayhewdrive
Citizen Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 801 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 4:10 pm: |
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Mark, Based on the way Steglitz was strongly supporting the bubble when it was initially discussed last Fall, you are going to a have a fight on your hands if you think you can defeat this. |
   
mrosner
Citizen Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 979 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 4:18 pm: |
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Mhd: I really had not thought about it at all. I will keep an open mind and let whomever wants to talk about the bubble have their say. I do have some concerns, some of which were raised. When and if it comes up again, we can all discuss.
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tototoo
Citizen Username: Tototoo
Post Number: 148 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:10 pm: |
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Mark, in your prior post you stated, "The key word is suggested. There has been no vote yet, no public discussion yet." How interesting the "vote" in your post comes before the "public discussion". Makes me feel like, again, the deal is done (a la Steglitz) and the "public discussion" comes when we cram it down your throats. Oy. The park used to be so pretty. |
   
mrosner
Citizen Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 981 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:12 am: |
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tototoo: If you want to play games with my wording go ahead. The vote would come after a discussion. I put "vote" first because Dave's post to start the thread implied that a decision was made. I do not ever remember there not being a public discussion before a vote on any topic and please don't say the dugouts because it was discussed in public twice by the BOT, and at a recreation committeee meeting (open to the public) before the first vote.
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dgm
Citizen Username: Dgm
Post Number: 165 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:19 am: |
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Have you ever seen one of these things collapse under a heavy load of "wintry mix". Now that is ugly. Put em by the pool so the new residents of Beifus can look at them. As for the restrooms, make the contractor figure it out. Also if you like to play the backcourt, you won't have much room in those "structures" |
   
Miriam Sumner
Citizen Username: Miriamsumner
Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 10:03 pm: |
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Parks and recreation should be so simple..If something is green, and shady, or sunny..keep it that way. Play what you want on it but don't build a permanent stucture, If you have a need for a permanent structure --to support an existing program or to start a new one, put it where it doesn't change the natural beauty of a park. The open space and recreation committees compiled a list of potential acquisition sites, most of them are already developed, so building a recreation structure on them (outside the existing parks) might be ok. |
   
guessagain
Citizen Username: Guessagain
Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 10:26 pm: |
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Guess your kids outgrew the playground built in the park and you have no need for the pool complex. Tennis is so much better played without the lights, or would you disagree with that, Miriam? |
   
bets
Citizen Username: Bets
Post Number: 503 Registered: 6-2001

| Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 11:30 pm: |
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Gee, lemme GUESS. You can't put the bubble over the courts by the pool since they're included in the Redevelopment Zone? |