Archive through February 18, 2004 Log Out | Lost Password? | Topics | Search
Contact | Register | My Profile | SO home | MOL home

M-SO Message Board » 2004 Attic » South Orange Specific » Archive through March 8, 2004 » Air Structures meeting today at Baird Center » Archive through February 18, 2004 « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

NCJanow(akaLibraryLady)
Citizen
Username: Librarylady

Post Number: 1217
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 4:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I won't attack you, Ff. I don't play tennis at all but I suppose that players would really like thge opportunity to play in all weather. But why, if this is being considered at all, shouldn't the village make the money not some other business?
NCJ aka LibraryLady
On a coffee break..or something like it.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

ffof
Citizen
Username: Ffof

Post Number: 1956
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 5:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh I didn't mean you, per se LL, just I didn't want anyone attacking. Yes, it seems that the town ought to make something. Why not just buy (rent)the bubble from the company and then have a winter membership (like pool membership?) to cover costs.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 797
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 5:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The argument against the courts by the Middle School was there was no bathroom.

Why can't they open the bathrooms by the pool and while we're at at, how about a bubble over the pool for all year swimming and a bubble over SOPAC, Shop Rite & Beifus to hide those eyesores.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

mary032
Citizen
Username: Mary032

Post Number: 28
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not a bubble over the entire South Orange, and hide our shame from the rest of the world. Hide from the public eye fiascos like the Beifus abortion, the Village Market horror, the Quarry disaster, the Animal Shelter travesty, the Gaslight Commons atrocity, the Church Street carastrophe, the SOPAC joke, the Dugouts insult, the tennis bubble monstrosity, and the circus of our government. Yeah, that's what we need. A big bubble to hide our face in it.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

mary032
Citizen
Username: Mary032

Post Number: 29
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 6:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Happy Valentine to all.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 798
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 7:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, Mary! A woman after my own heart. If I wasn't already married.....
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Sylad
Citizen
Username: Sylad

Post Number: 225
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 9:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We had some of these where I went to college, I say had because after a few years they were taken down. Students would climb the bubble at night and then slide down, dozens of kids broke both ankles as they slid down and hit the ground feet first. There was a 10-12 foot fence around the bubble but that did not seem to stop them from the midnight climb.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Marc
Citizen
Username: Bautisma

Post Number: 96
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And when I went to college they planted some trees. The kids would climb them at midnight and slide down them. Then girls and boys would climb them and use them for necking.

Maybe its a good idea to chop down every tree in the village
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 799
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marc....they're already working on that....
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

just me fromsouthorange
Citizen
Username: Jmfromsorange

Post Number: 92
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 2:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

who's going to run this tennis program? and what about orange lawn? this is a bad idea! why don't we build in in one of the trustee's yards instead?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider

Post Number: 471
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 9:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are some *hideous* homes and commercial buildings in SO.

I cannot imagine that anyone with any taste or sense would have approved them (the most glaring example, that awful office building across from the town hall - that is ridiculous not only from a style perspective but from its scale (exacerabated by its being a box).

So -- let's hope that this, or any potential commercial development, are judged not only on aesthetics -- but on whether it makes rational business sense. (yes, I know there are issues about public land use, too...)

That said -- I do not play tennis, so have no personal affinity for something like this. So its somewhat "NIMBY" that I think that this is absurdly ugly.

But -- if it turns out that I am in the minority, that tennis players from SO and from the area would flock here, play tennis, spend money at our fine coming gourment market, buy tickets at our fine coming SOPAC, eat lots of fine dinners and drink many martinis, far be it from me to stand in the way of progress.

But ask me -- and I'll say that anything this ugly cannot ultimately be a positive contribution to our village.

Pete
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 977
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 1:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ffof: That was basically suggested, only as a 50-50 partnership. The key word is suggested. No vote yet, no public discussion yet and no idea if there is even a demand for indoor tennis (although I bet someone will show me exactly how much potential there is).

There were legal issues also as why the bubble cannot be done by the pool, although I don't think we were given a definitive answer.
There is also already a staff at the Baird center.

Unlike the dugouts which were bought to the trustees by residents and supported by most (based on emails, letters, etc) I have not heard any real interest or demand from residents.

I can live without a bubble and I am not convinced there is a sufficient need or demand. By the way, for those who do not know, the bubbles would be up for four months.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive

Post Number: 801
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

Based on the way Steglitz was strongly supporting the bubble when it was initially discussed last Fall, you are going to a have a fight on your hands if you think you can defeat this.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 979
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 4:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mhd: I really had not thought about it at all. I will keep an open mind and let whomever wants to talk about the bubble have their say.
I do have some concerns, some of which were raised. When and if it comes up again, we can all discuss.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

tototoo
Citizen
Username: Tototoo

Post Number: 148
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, in your prior post you stated, "The key word is suggested. There has been no vote yet, no public discussion yet."

How interesting the "vote" in your post comes before the "public discussion".

Makes me feel like, again, the deal is done (a la Steglitz) and the "public discussion" comes when we cram it down your throats.

Oy. The park used to be so pretty.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner

Post Number: 981
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tototoo: If you want to play games with my wording go ahead. The vote would come after a discussion. I put "vote" first because Dave's post to start the thread implied that a decision was made.

I do not ever remember there not being a public discussion before a vote on any topic and please don't say the dugouts because it was discussed in public twice by the BOT, and at a recreation committeee meeting (open to the public) before the first vote.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

dgm
Citizen
Username: Dgm

Post Number: 165
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you ever seen one of these things collapse under a heavy load of "wintry mix". Now that is ugly. Put em by the pool so the new residents of Beifus can look at them. As for the restrooms, make the contractor figure it out. Also if you like to play the backcourt, you won't have much room in those "structures"
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Miriam Sumner
Citizen
Username: Miriamsumner

Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Parks and recreation should be so simple..If something is green, and shady, or sunny..keep it that way. Play what you want on it but don't build a permanent stucture,
If you have a need for a permanent structure --to support an existing program or to start a new one, put it where it doesn't change the natural beauty of a park. The open space and recreation committees compiled a list of potential acquisition sites, most of them are already developed, so building a recreation structure on them (outside the existing parks) might be ok.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

guessagain
Citizen
Username: Guessagain

Post Number: 22
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guess your kids outgrew the playground built in the park and you have no need for the pool complex. Tennis is so much better played without the lights, or would you disagree with that, Miriam?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

bets
Citizen
Username: Bets

Post Number: 503
Registered: 6-2001


Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gee, lemme GUESS. You can't put the bubble over the courts by the pool since they're included in the Redevelopment Zone?

Topics | Last Day | Last Week | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Credits Administration