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davidfrazer
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Username: Davidfrazer

Post Number: 72
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI. The details of the separate proposal to be presented to the BoE Monday night, March 1, 2004 are now posted on the District website, http://www.somsd.k12.nj.us/finance/SeparateProposalAsOf022704.pdf.

David E. Frazer
Member, BoE
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 2944
Registered: 10-1999


Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David:

Thank you for the heads up.
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bobk
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 4834
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting, very interesting as Artie Johnson use to say on Laugh In.

It appears the Super is willing to give in on some items and if not a line item approval at least go with a group approval. Is this a change in approach on the part of the Admin?

David, thanks for the information.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 2954
Registered: 10-1999


Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 - 11:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A new version of that document (as of 3/1/04) is now on the district's website:

http://www.somsd.k12.nj.us/finance/SeparateProposal.pdf

There's also a new budget summary and comparative budget:

http://www.somsd.k12.nj.us/finance/2004-05BudgetSummary.pdf

http://www.somsd.k12.nj.us/finance/2004-05ComparativeBudgetAsOf030104.pdf

And finally, a message from the ringmaster:

http://www.somsd.k12.nj.us/finance/SuptMessageAsOf030104.htm
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shoshannah
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Username: Shoshannah

Post Number: 391
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobk, actually Artie Johnson used to say," Veeery interesting. But stupid."
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ffof
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Username: Ffof

Post Number: 2016
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, March 2, 2004 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, Artie Johnson used to say "Veeeerrrry interesting, but (fill in the blank)" depending upon the skit.

Take it from me....Fickle Finger of Fate
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John Davenport
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Username: Jjd

Post Number: 143
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 1:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, he used to say "...but Stoooopid!"

Does anyone know what the Thin Client and Telephone (Phase II) items are in the separate proposal. It seems odd that they have priority over elementary music, enrichment, and world language programs.
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jfburch
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Username: Jfburch

Post Number: 1324
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 7:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are both technology upgrades that will pay for themselves in short order and thereafter save money every year.
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fringe
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Username: Fringe

Post Number: 309
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 9:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If there has been a public pronouncement by the administration or BOE about the prioritization of the above items, please refer to it.

But rankings aside, a real issue in paying for Thin Client and phase II of the telephone system through this mechanism is that even though these are one time spending items, their inclusion in the Separate Proposal means that all future budgets will be increased by their cost compounded at 1.03. This "slush fund" effect does not contribute to fiscal responsibility on the part of the BOE or administration.
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Diversity Man
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Username: Deadwhitemale

Post Number: 677
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 11:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

technology pays for itself, by enhancing the cost effectiveness of what, by how much, and upon what proofs do we rely for the assumptions.
The slush fund lives!!!
DWM
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jfburch
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Username: Jfburch

Post Number: 1325
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See, for example, the Budget Brief on Telephones:

http://www.somsd.k12.nj.us/finance/BudgetBriefTelephone.pdf
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J. Crohn
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Username: Jcrohn

Post Number: 946
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will someone representing the admin or the BOE finance committee please address what Fringe and Reflective have been saying about the inclusion of Separate Proposal items that should be one-time capital expenses into the Separate Proposal budget, where, if approved, they automatically become part of the baseline budget for the following year and are therefore included in the amount on which the state's 3% budget cap applies?

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