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J. Crohn
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Username: Jcrohn

Post Number: 903
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Betheil has been a model BOE member: demanding, skeptical, and fair.

He has my vote next time he runs.
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michael
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Username: Michael

Post Number: 473
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 7:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A simple question for jfburch -
Will you be running for BOE in the upcoming election ? (asked previously, not answered)
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C Bataille
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Username: Nakaille

Post Number: 1648
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, a simple question for you: why do you have to know NOW so badly? You remind of the kid who keeps tapping his mother, whining for her attention, when she told him she'd be with him in a few minutes. What is the emergency? You will find out when everyone else does, when the filing deadline is reached. Why is that not good enough for you? You seem to feel she somehow owes you an answer. Because....what? I know the woman socially and I don't know whether she is running or not. This is, after all, a weighty matter, and if someone takes their time in making the decision I find that both reasonable and responsible.
Cathy
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michael
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Username: Michael

Post Number: 474
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A whining kid. Thank-you

Well, you see, it's very relevant given the positions and posts she has made to date regarding educational philosophy and other matters regarding our schools.
Running for BOE places that in a different light, don’t you agree ?

If she is unsure, a simple \b
[undecided] would cover it.

I could just as easily ask, What’s the big deal? Why the shroud of secrecy?
It’s not just me, Cathy. The public would like to know. This is not unreasonable.

It seems to me that by not answering she (and now you) are turning this into something much more complicated.
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michael
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Username: Michael

Post Number: 475
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 1:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A whining kid. Thank-you

Well, you see, it's very relevant given the positions and posts she has made to date regarding educational philosophy and other matters regarding our schools.
Running for BOE places that in a different light, don’t you agree ?

If she is unsure, a simple \b[undecided] would cover it.

I could just as easily ask, What’s the big deal? Why the shroud of secrecy?
It’s not just me, Cathy. The public would like to know. This is not unreasonable.

It seems to me that by not answering she (and now you) are turning this into something much more complicated.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 2863
Registered: 10-1999


Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 2:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know if one could view past posts in a different light, if the poster later decides to run for BOE. I'd agree that if someone runs, it's appropriate to look at that candidate's past postings, and even ask questions about the views expressed. But, of course, that would happen once someone is actually a candidate in the race.

Actually, if the past is any guide, it often seems that people who are planning to run for public office start to reduce or end their posting here, a little while before the campaign starts. AJC, Ed May and Mr. Berkeley are prominent exceptions to this rule, but there are a lot of other examples of prolific posters who are less active, if a campaign is coming up. Sure, it's just a theory, but we may find that some people we haven't heard from lately, are planning to run.
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harpo
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Username: Harpo

Post Number: 1225
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 3:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,

Is the reason you keep asking that you want to start posting a lot of jfburch's old posts? In context or out of context?

You don't have to answer for her but: Is Marie running?

Cathy can answer for herself, but my answer to your question about whether you are being unreasonable in repeatedly asking on MOL: Yes. And your stated reasons for doing so seem disingenuous as well.
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Diversity Man
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Username: Deadwhitemale

Post Number: 629
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 4:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, you are known by the company you keep, and the cheap-shotters you attract.
You must be doing something right.
DWM
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michael
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Username: Michael

Post Number: 476
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh the intrigue and innuendo fashioned out of NOTHING but a simple question!!!

YIKES ! Fahgetaboutit !

I think we all know the answer.


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harpo
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Username: Harpo

Post Number: 1231
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So Marie is running?
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sac
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Username: Sac

Post Number: 947
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bookgal,

I'm pretty sure that you can vote absentee, but what makes you say that many people will be away?
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michael
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Username: Michael

Post Number: 477
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You make me laugh !
I'll let her answer.
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drremulak
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Username: Drremulak

Post Number: 27
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the following people have signed out school board candidate kits:

julia burch
robert little
lynne crawford
william gifford
al gilson
rowland bennett
rogers campbell

so far, only little, crawford and gifford have filed.
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bookgal
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Username: Bookgal

Post Number: 494
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know Lynne Crawford. She has two kids in the district system. She is a passionate advocate for all kids. She is also a very experienced educator and administrator with a very thorough and clear eyed understanding of all the legal, financial and educational responsibilities involved. Lynne would be a great addition to the Board of Ed
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michael
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Username: Michael

Post Number: 481
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

julia burch used to have a say about education on line. She had some really interesting ideas.
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ffof
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Username: Ffof

Post Number: 1958
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 9:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will be waiting to find out who Latz is supporting, and then I will automatically vote for the others.

Is it 3 seats up for grabs? Gagnier, Slafkes and Campbell? Gagnier and Slafkes haven't picked up packets?
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Reflective
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Username: Reflective

Post Number: 318
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like only one incumbent will be running for re-election.

Consider seven people running for 3 seats.

Burch is Slafkes replacement, imho.
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mellie
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Username: Mellie

Post Number: 401
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 5:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greg Betheil -perhaps you can consider the following analysis of the budget comparative document:

Headlines

Total enrollment: flat
Total headcount: declined by 6.4 FTE
Total increase in costs: $6.6m

And the answer is - salary increases ranging from 5-61% raises.

I thought the big increase went in last year. I did not get a pay rise, but the teachers got what appear to be massive pay rises -

eg 61.26% increase for salaries of supervisors of instruction - on a decrease in headcount from 1.3 FTE to 0.5 FTE if the comparative document (where is 2001-2, 2002-3 on this, and where is the pure line item summary by majopr line - eg salaries in toto, utilities in toto)

This is only a partially useful docment because a fair amount of data mining is required to get to what happened - which is looking like 10% average salary increase - this after a large increase went through last year.



So that's an average of about $1m increase in costs for each FTE reduced.

No where near good enough Dr H. 1/10 for not taking it seriously.
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michael
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Username: Michael

Post Number: 482
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mellie brings up a very interesting albeit not very well known fact.

Enrollment HAS been Flat ! Quite to the contrary of past and present "predictions" made by Super H and BOE members . (You know, after a while you start to see a... what's it called...oh yeah PATTERN ! that our numbers are ALWAYS WRONG ! HELLO ?!!!)

Their "increase" in enrollment have been plain ole' WRONG for several years now, yet , they continue to use what they KNOW to be inflated numbers to "project" their budget needs which subsquently helps fuel the annual "budget crisis hysteria" hoax.

Extremely Dishonest and Contemptible Tactics. Not the kind of behavior I expect from my elected officials.

Think I'm wrong?
Check the numbers. I did.

Any BOE member care to comment ?

Doubt it.

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John Davenport
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Username: Jjd

Post Number: 130
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 12:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems obvious that Julia Burch is running, and I'm sure that she will be judged by her past posts as an unconditional blank-check supporter of this administration.

However, she will have some very appealing opponents, and the contrast will be stark!

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