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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 2322
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exercise: Pick a government expense that is wasteful, name it, and state how much money is wasted. Would you eliminate this expense, reduce it, or restructure it in some way?
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
There is nothing

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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 6535
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't let Haliburton gouge American taxpayers for fuel.

Stop invading nations without proof of anything. The money saved by not invading Iraq could have paid for national healthcare. Instead, we're building hospitals for Iraqis.

Cut county governments out and form regional administrative bureaus to handle the court system.

Mandate regionalized local governments based on population and geographic size.

Mandate votes on school budgets.
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harpo
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Username: Harpo

Post Number: 1313
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

You should take a look at this article from today's Washington Post.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31728-2004Mar4.html

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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 6536
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"...Doctors, nurses and Iraqi officials said some things have improved since the war -- especially the infrastructure of some hospitals and clinics that have been rebuilt."
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Shock & Awe Straw
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 2129
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 4:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

You should take a look at this article from today's NY POST as well.



http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/19852.htm
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harpo
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Username: Harpo

Post Number: 1314
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, March 5, 2004 - 5:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

Iraq's hospitals are a humanitarian disaster, which is what that article reports. Some things improved, yes. That's not been a waste of your tax dollars, and you know I didn't support the war. Those who did owe it to the injured to provide them with medical care and I believe the Geneva Conventions even insist that occupying powers have a responsibility to provide medical services. I wouldn't want to pile more illegalities onto the first.




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Habanero2
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Username: Habanero2

Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Saturday, March 6, 2004 - 8:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

List of things that are wasteful:
Welfare: get rid of it
Medicaid/Medicare: restructure it as a subsystem that is public. All publicly funded healthcare should be provided in an all public system. Those of us who pay should be able to chose, those who don't get to go to the British style (or Veteran's Administration style) system. That would reduce costs because the public system could be done with major reductions in choice (i.e. no dialysis or end-stage cancer treatment).
Education: create a flat payscale for administrators and teachers. The teachers' jobs are harder, they should get paid at least the same as the paper pushers.
Consolidate all local governments. NJ does not need 6,000 mayors. It could easily get away with 25.
Cap all spending increases at inflation minus .1%. Eventually this would correct out of control spending.
Don't provide any services beyond the basics (education/fire/police/defense/roads).
Stop paying for the arts. If people want art they can pay to go see it.
"You kids today have it easy. When I was a kid everything was HUGE. My dad was nearly four times bigger than me. You couldn't even see the tops of counters.... Then gradually everything became smaller until it was the manageable size it is today."
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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 1624
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Saturday, March 6, 2004 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Stop paying for the arts. If people want art they can pay to go see it.




nope, thats just not gonna work. civilizations older than ours understood the need to subsidize the arts. this is not the place to make a cut. It would devastate the society if the arts became a purely "haves" issue.
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