| Author | Message | ||
     Redsox Citizen Username: Redsox Post Number: 428 Registered: 6-2002 |
it appears that the budget increase is inversely proportional to the decrease in test results.... What is going on?????? | ||
| Marc Citizen Username: Bautisma Post Number: 137 Registered: 9-2003 |
what were the test scores last year? | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4863 Registered: 5-2001 |
I don't see the SL until I get home, but a look at www.nj.com doesn't show any story about Essex County today. Anyone have a link? | ||
| Marc Citizen Username: Bautisma Post Number: 138 Registered: 9-2003 |
They had a special section grading each school in the state. This is a link to the actual report http://education.state.nj.us/rc/rc03/letter.html | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4865 Registered: 5-2001 |
Marc, thank you. These are the long awaited NCLB figures. I don't think they are bad at all. Given that we are probably in a DFG higher than we should be, based on the socio-economic level of the students in the schools, we do fairly close to the DFG averages in most areas. When you look at the disaggregated scores (race, ethnicity and income) we seem to outscore the DFG averages in almost all classifications. I can hardly wait until JF Burch gets ahold of these numbers. Edited to add that the above comments apply only to the high school, since I haven't had a chance to review other levels | ||
| parkbench87 Citizen Username: Parkbench87 Post Number: 370 Registered: 7-2001 |
Redsox I don't think your conclusion holds any water. Comparing 2001-2002 numbers to 2002-2003 numbers does not provide a meaningful analysis since two different groups of kids are being tested. You would need to follow each class to see how their scores improve or decline to make a strong argument either way. If we are going to make judgements let's take a deeper look at the details. | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4866 Registered: 5-2001 |
Also take look at the administrative expense area. We are way over the state average in non-classroom expenses (the Academy Street Gang.  | ||
| amandacat Citizen Username: Amandacat Post Number: 381 Registered: 8-2001  |
Did anyone notice how high CHS's suspension numbers are? If I'm reading it right, 25.9% of the student population was suspended in 2002/2003. Frankly, I find that more than a little bit alarming . . . | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4867 Registered: 5-2001 |
I think this is reflective of Ms. Pollock's attempt to bring more discipline to the school and encourage better all around behavior. CHS isn't your typical middle class suburban high school by any means. | ||
| amandacat Citizen Username: Amandacat Post Number: 382 Registered: 8-2001 |
It's good news that Ms. Pollack is bringing order to the high school, but disheartening that such a large percentage of the student body needs such discipline. To put the suspension figure in perspective, in 2003 only 0.8% of the students at Montclair High School (the district that most immediately comes to mind as being similar demographically to SOM) were suspended. What's up with that? | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4868 Registered: 5-2001 |
I didn't pull the site up again, but the average for our DFG was about 15%. My guess is that Montclair, in a lower DFG, has some sort of alternative procedure. | ||
| amandacat Citizen Username: Amandacat Post Number: 383 Registered: 8-2001 |
What other Essex (and/or Morris & Union) districts share our DFG? I don't see this information on the school report card site. | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4872 Registered: 5-2001 |
Off the top of my head; Livingston and Chatham. There has to be a list somewhere and I expect this shows up in the SL section. A point that should be made is our districts makeup is much different than any other system in our DFG. Around 2/3rds of the HS students tested are minorities and I think we have all by our lonesome over 1/3rd of all minority kids (other than Asian) in our DFG. | ||
| J. Crohn Citizen Username: Jcrohn Post Number: 945 Registered: 3-2003 |
"When you look at the disaggregated scores (race, ethnicity and income) we seem to outscore the DFG averages in almost all classifications." Bobk, pardon my laziness, but where are you finding the disaggregated data for 2003? The Report Cards link doesn't appear to connect to it. | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4873 Registered: 5-2001 |
Click on the "details" on any of the main tables | ||
| ffof Citizen Username: Ffof Post Number: 2031 Registered: 5-2001  |
The suspension numbers don't make sense - maybe different schools are reporting different things. Maybe it's "detention" that CHS reported, or some such thing, because 25% of the student is body is not getting suspended. | ||
| greeneyes Citizen Username: Greeneyes Post Number: 486 Registered: 8-2001 |
Below is a definition of "suspension" from the report website ( I copied and pasted so this is EXACTLY as it appears on the site) Student Suspensions These are percentages of students who were suspended at least once during the school year. Students suspended more than one time are counted once. The percents are calculated by dividing the total number suspended by the total enrollment. Amandacat: I was also alarmed by this. ffof: According to the reporting, 25% of the student body is being suspended at least once. I don't think different districts report their numbers differently. It seems that a suspension is a suspension and a detention is a detention. And how would you know that 25% of the student body isn't being suspended? | ||
| shestheone Citizen Username: Shestheone Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2003 |
could this high number be related to an unusual year at chs...eg: the cafeteria incident? | ||
| bobk Supporter Username: Bobk Post Number: 4877 Registered: 5-2001 |
Is this a negative? Or is it a indication that the principal is taking control of the school and not letting the inmates run the instituion any longer? Personally I suspect the latter. Another interesting point to note is that the SAT scores are increasing at a rate well above the state average. Also, the number of graduates going on to four year colleges is increasing substantially. Gosh we might even move up a few places in the NJ Monthly survey.  | ||
| Marc Citizen Username: Bautisma Post Number: 144 Registered: 9-2003 |
476 suspensions does sound like a lot. I don't know if it is a good or bad thing |
