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fringe
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Username: Fringe

Post Number: 323
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 8:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last night in what may have been his BOE swan song, Rogers Campbell became the only BOE member in recent memory who put the budget blame where it belongs - on the BOE. He cited the failed funding strategy that has led to yet another crisis and threat of 7+% tax increase. And, as he said, "put the District at risk."

He unlike some of his counterparts is willing to accept such blame and stop the madness by voting against yet another budget based on the mindless reverence to status quo. As he said, we must define what we want, how we will pay for it, and how we will measure it. That requires hard work, large community involvement, and tough political choices. And we cannot even get the thoughts of the school board candidates to such comments here or any other public forum.
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Diversity Man
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Username: Deadwhitemale

Post Number: 692
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This thread will probably go nowhere, because it is too touchy a subject for the board, the super, and the candidates.
DWM
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J. Crohn
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Post Number: 986
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 1:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fringe, I wasn't at last night's mtg. Aside from Campbell, how did the BOE members vote?
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johnny
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Post Number: 839
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 2:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's refreshing to see one of the BOE members actually be critical of themselves. The budget process is a complete and utter joke and the blame lies directly on Dr. Horoschak and the BOE.

Unfortunately, Roger's self-critical statement is probably too late for this year but hopefully will raise the bar for next year's budget process.
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ladyrunner
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Username: Ladyrunner

Post Number: 20
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JCrohn,

I think I heard Brian O'Leary was absent, Campbell & Bethiel were against, everyone else voted for it as presented.

Verification?
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jfburch
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Post Number: 1333
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correct.
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bookgal
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Username: Bookgal

Post Number: 509
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 7:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did Brian get to vote in absentia?
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bookgal
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Post Number: 510
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Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 7:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did Brian get to vote in absentia?
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J. Crohn
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Username: Jcrohn

Post Number: 990
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 - 9:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, ladyrunner.
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mwsilva
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Username: Mwsilva

Post Number: 395
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"The budget process is a complete and utter joke and the blame lies directly on Dr. Horoschak and the BOE."

Not so. Dr. Horoschak is an employee of the BOE. The blame is on the BOE and only the BOE. They have the job of fixing it but choose to assign the task to Dr. Horoschak.
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mellie
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Username: Mellie

Post Number: 428
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 8:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mw - both are accountable; both need to do a lot better. The BOE ought to be aggressivley driving a process that starts now for next year and laying out the required analyses and timetable.

Dr H, as a highly paid professional receiving incentive comp ought to be facilitating this upwards to the BOE if they have not driven it downwards.

Analogy: a (good) CEO of a corp does not wait for his Board to tell him to fo a good job - he is paid enough to know what he ought to do. If Dr H isn't doing that, maybe he is the wrong guy. I wonder what his empoyment contract requires of him regarding fiscal accountability.

Don't deflect the debate by trying to deflect the blame - both share it.

What are we going to do about it ?
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Brian O'Leary
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Post Number: 1531
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 5:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know I'm late to this thread... I did miss the preliminary vote. The budget calendar jumped all over the map this year, and the preliminary vote was moved to a date when I was previously scheduled to be out of town.

In the past I've moved heaven and some earth to make rescheduled meetings. In June 2000, I skipped 10th-row seats at a Springsteen concert at Madison Square Garden, so that I could attend what I thought would be the big presentation on secondary space... that's a lesson for you.

I agree with Tucker that Rogers' vote is well-placed, though I'm not sure he is the first person to voice these concerns. In the end, he and I voted together, opposing the final version of the budget. We need to create a Board for which the majority clearly wants to change not just the process but the results of the district's financial planning efforts.
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johnny
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Username: Johnny

Post Number: 859
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 - 5:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mwsilva-
Are you really that naive? Dr. Horoschak is the CEO (if you will) of the entire school district. He and his staff develop the budget. He is supposed to be the leader of our district. The BOE does not run the schools day to day, they only oversee the district. Dr. Horoschak is a highly paid professional educator, he is the supposed expert. The BOE is made up of concerned and interested citizens but they are not paid to run the district, Dr. Horoschak is.
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Reflective
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Username: Reflective

Post Number: 384
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, April 1, 2004 - 2:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Boe Election is now imminent.

Budget and its methodology is a big time issue.

As is Tone and Attitude of BOE to residents.

Pay attention to Crawford, Bennett and Little.

If they join O'Leary and Betheil, O'Leary or Betheil may replace Jasey as Chair , a welcome sea change.

Pay attn and vote...

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