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kmk
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Username: Kmk

Post Number: 268
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please help........We are having houseguests this weekend with a long list of food restrictions. Most notably, they can not eat wheat or sugar, no spicy food (because one is nursing) and they keep strictly kosher.

We are huge Thai food lovers and hoped to make our signature grilled beef salad - keeping it not too spicy of course. Where can I find a delicious cut of beef that I can grill and is Kosher? For that matter where can I buy Kosher chicken breasts too?

We may end up going strictly vegetarian this time.

Thanks
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shoshannah
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Post Number: 417
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You cannot cook anything for these house guests if they are strictly kosher. Even if the meat is kosher, your cookware and oven are not. Order in prepared foods from Zaydes or Moshavi and eat on paper plates.
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JK
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Username: Jeffinmaplewood

Post Number: 33
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if they only eat kosher meat but are not strict as far as your utensils, you can buy kosher meat at Zayda's in SO, ShopRite in West Orange or Maple Kosher in the Millburn Mall.
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susan1014
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Username: Susan1014

Post Number: 90
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kosher celiacs? Sounds like a birthday cookout at our house...we keep kosher, and family cookouts are designed around one vegetarian, one celiac (gluten intolerance), one who can't eat onions/garlic, and one migrane sufferer with many limits (we always end up with two birthday cakes and 2 or 3 main dishes with that crowd!)

Shoshannah is right..bring in take out and eat on paper plates, but beware that if the wheat prohibition is due to a true dietary intolerance (Celiac disease), many ingredients are off limits (i.e. certain vinegars, soy sauce, etc).

If you are crazy about cooking, in theory you could buy a new grating for the outdoor grill, new utensils, new knife for cutting, and eat on paper, but I wouldn't try it without your houseguest's coaching. Getting the meet is easy -- Zayde's on Irvington in South Orange. Keeping it kosher is much harder!

Feel free to private line me if you have further questions! Sounds like you need to verify whether they mean true celiac, and if they mean true kosher, or just ingredient avoidance.
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kss
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Username: Kss

Post Number: 65
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 1:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are some kosher places around Pleasant Valley Way in W. Orange. One is Chinese & the other is a deli type place whose name used to be Gourmet Galaxy but I think it changed. There's also a place in Livingston called something like Fat Tony's which I think is deli like & possibly more (Mt. Pleasant Ave.). When my glatt kosher in-laws have been to visit, we've dealt w/ either Zayda's or Gourmet Galaxy & it's worked out fine. Of course, we didn't use our dishes.
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kmk
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Username: Kmk

Post Number: 269
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 1:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks all....I'm off to Zaydas it seems.

One half of this couple (our friend) is a recent convert to Judaism. Her commitment to the dietary laws reminds me of something my grandmother used to say. Being raised Catholic, she always said that a "convert" makes the best Catholic - they learned all the rules as an adult and are determined to do everything "just right" in the eyes of the fellow parishioners!

Thanks for all the tips - she didn't say anything about our dishes or pots and pans. She just stated that all meat had to come from a Kosher butcher. I guess I need to learn more about the different levels "strict" Kosher-ness.

Thanks again.
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kevin
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Username: Kevin

Post Number: 225
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 2:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is her name Charlotte?

(someone might get that)
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Username: Librarylady

Post Number: 1291
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 2:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This isn't the CITY, just the suburbs (I did get that) Unless you are referring to my Matzoh dish? (someone else will get that!)
Nancy Chiller Janow
On a coffee break..or something like it.
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kmk
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Username: Kmk

Post Number: 271
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 2:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No - but she and her female partner are coming in from NYC!

Didn't we all live there before we discovered our own little paradise out here? (We were lucky - we bought 10 months before midtown direct went into service!)
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JK
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Username: Jeffinmaplewood

Post Number: 34
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 3:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it's Fat Pauly's in Livingston
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Joan
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Username: Joancrystal

Post Number: 2599
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 5:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few tips since it sounds like your guest may be strictly kosher.

Get kosher take out and be sure to keep it well wrapped if you intend to store it in the same refrigerator with your non-kosher food.

Use a paper table cloth to cover your table and serve on paper plates or glass dishes.

Use glass or plastic for your beverages.

Be careful not to serve milk and meat at the same meal. Don't combine meat and dairy in the same entree. No cheese burgers for example, even if the meat is kosher and don't serve ice cream or any desert containing butter, milk or cheese after a meat meal (poultry counts as meat).

You may be better off serving a kosher type of fish since fish is considered neutral.

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ashear
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Username: Ashear

Post Number: 1081
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 5:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But make sure you know which fish are kosher. There is a list of kosher and non-kosher fish here: http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/

All shelfish, shrimp, lobsters, etc are not kosher.
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kmk
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Username: Kmk

Post Number: 278
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 9:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The weekend went well. Thank you all for your help. My friends clarified that they keep Kosher in many ways, including eating only Kosher meats, but they don't adhere to all the laws about the plates, pots, pans etc.

To show my naivete - I waited until the last minute to buy the meat (hey, I'm a foodie from Texas who likes really fresh meat.) I forgot that the Kosher butcher wouldn't be open on Saturday morning! Thank goodness for King's and Kosher chicken breasts. We quickly switched to a chicken laab! Many of our dishes required coconut milk - I was so proud that I was not mixing meat and "dairy". Thai food proved a good choice for all.

I have certainly had my fill of dietary restrictions for a long time to come.
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Joan
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Username: Joancrystal

Post Number: 2618
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 4:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glad all went well.
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Tom Reingold
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 2520
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Monday, March 22, 2004 - 5:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm, we could debate whether meat purchased on the Sabbath is kosher.
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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