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Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 237
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:24 am: |     |
Sweet Lou in Mets blue? Interesting. Star Ledger says the M's may ask for Roberto Alomar as compensation ... Do it. We finished last with him, we can finish last without him and he's only signed through next season. |
parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 160
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 11:31 am: | |
In exchange for Pinella we (the Mets) will give Seattle Tony Tarasco and a years supply of Rolling Paper.
Just beause we finished last with Alomar doesn't mean we should get rid of him. With that logic we should get rid of everyone. On second thought  |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 238
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 1:29 pm: | |
Deal Alomar. Sign Fonzie for 2nd Base. Mets have Ty Winnington who can play 3rd (cheap). Take the savings and get some pitching. Pitching wins. In fact, package Mo Lawn and Rey O. for pitching. Bring up Reyes to play shortstop and sign John Olerud. If Pinella comes, that might make signing Olerud a little easier ... |
mlj
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Username: Mlj
Post Number: 127
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 9:56 am: | |
Wonder if Alomar has a no-trade clause for certain teams?
And I thought Olerud's home is in Seattle and that is why he wants to stay on Mariners, no? |
E&K
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Username: Ashmilby
Post Number: 16
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 4:29 pm: | |
Olerud doesn't want to come back to NY. Since we insulted Alfonzo with a two year deal, he'll wind up in a Braves or Yankees uniform. Philadelphia might be interested in Alfonzo. Alomar will be re-signed to play the rest of his career as a Met particularly since he's been very vocal about staying here. Pitching does win championships but we definitely got to get rid of some of our free swinging players. Our Olerud team was great because they could field and they put the ball in play. Wouldn't be surprised if the Mets deal Burnitz to the Marlins for Preston Wilson -- true, a free swinger but an upgrade over Burnitz. The Marlins want to eliminate salary. If we package some more people on the cheap, perhaps we'll get Brad Penny, too, a decent pitcher and one who started a big brawl against the Mets by hitting Payton (I believe)? |
wharfrat
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Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 617
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 6:59 pm: | |
Why is it the Mets can't seem to do many things right? Watching the Mets trying to get Pinella is downright constipating! Do they have to report every travail they encounter in attempting to pry him from the Mariners.
Of course, now that they have insulted Alfonso, he'll turn around and sign a contract with the Yankees, allowing them to move Soriano to centerfield and Bernie to left.
Yes E&K, pitching does win championships, but who is available as a free agent, and who do the Metsys have to deal in order to get some by trade?
And while they are at it, what do they need to do to convince Mike Piazza to move to first base? |
ml1
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 251
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 9:21 pm: | |
Wharfrat
um, -- there are a couple of free agent pitchers out there named Maddux and Glavine. Heard a rumor that they might be pretty good.
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wharfrat
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Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 619
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 5:44 am: | |
Ml1-
Maddux will never come to NY. 10 or so years ago, when Maddux was last a free agent he took the yankees for a ride, in order to get a lucrative contract from the Braves.
If he leaves the Braves, he goes to the D'backs because they are close to his hometown, Las Vegas.
What $$ would Glavine command in this year's free agent market? 15-20 million a year, probably. Besides, with the Mets pourous defense, Glavine is a 14-12 pitcher.
Power pitchers generally do better in the rusting, windy confines of Shea Stadium. |
ml1
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 252
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 11:05 am: | |
Wharfrat,
I agree that neither one would likely sign with the Mets, particularly after the debacle of this past season. It would be worth pursuing them however, just to gauge their interest. If anyone pays Glavine $15+ million, let them have him. If the Mets can get him for Leiter $, maybe it would be worth it. |
wharfrat
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Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 620
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 6:03 am: | |
It looks more and more that Lou Pinella isn't coming to NY. If what I heard on the radio is correct, the Mets and Mariners are very far apart on the issue of fair compensation. Also, the Mariners are so angry at Lou that they are being intentionally stubborn in order to thwart Pinella's desire to manage the Mets.
So, MOL Hot Stove Baseball aficianados and braintrust I ask you, who is YOUR choice for manager of the "Blue Bummers."
I nominate George Berkeley. There doesn't seem to be ONE thing this jack-of-all-trades can't do. |
parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 168
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 10:16 am: | |
WIllie Randolph is the man. He is a quiet determined person who played the game at a high level. He is a New Yorker who will command the respect of the veterans as a well as the crop of young players we will be counting on in the next couple of years. The Mets need to stop grabbing for other teams managers and make an inspired choice. Mike Scoscia is a perfect example of a succesful manager who the Angels took a chance on. Lets sign Willie. |
wharfrat
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Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 622
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 8:53 pm: | |
Seems Jamie Moyer, Seattle pitcher, is going to be a free agent. Maybe the Mets can send the Mariners a "Queen's cheer" and spend some of the money they saved on Sweet Lou to sign this decent pitcher.
pb87-
Yea, I agree. |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 252
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 23, 2002 - 11:33 pm: | |
Ted Williams was a great player, but a lousy manager. Willie Randolph is not the guy and the Mets are not going to hire someone without any managing experience. Ken Macha is the guy. Fact: Billy Beane (A's GM) is one of the sharpest GM's out there. Fact: Billy Beane wants to hand the Mets Art Howe on a silver platter, so they can have Ken Macha as their manager. Think about. Billy Beane's been to the post season the last three years. Steve Phillips ain't.
If Sweet Lou signs in Tampa Bay, he will be entering baseball hell. He'll lose a 100+ games for, well, probably the rest of this career ... Lou should either: A) Tell Seatle "I'm staying". Seatle can then fire him and he can do what he wants. B) Manage Seatle for a year and then do what he wants. Lou simply got out manuevered by Seatle. He should take his lumps for one year though, not for four years. Again, Tampa Bay is not going to be good for a long time.
Good game tonight. Baseball is the best sport! |
E&K
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Username: Ashmilby
Post Number: 21
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 8:06 am: | |
I like Willie Randolph, too. I still think Lou's going to wait long enough to talk to the Mets and sign with them. He's nutty to take the Tampa job. My fear is that the Mets will have no one left but Terry Francona who manages like Mike Cubbage without glasses. |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 253
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 4:48 pm: | |
Billy Beane got the manager he wanted. The Mets did not ... |
wharfrat
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Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 624
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 8:03 pm: | |
sigh |
Hank Zona
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Username: Hankzona
Post Number: 416
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 9:14 pm: | |
Judging from Art's style of discipline, the Mets may not lead the league in basehits next season, but should be close to the top once again in bonghits. But he is a gentleman and knows baseball and I was impressed with how he handled himself with the press during the past few seasons in the playoffs. He certainly doesnt seem to have Valentine-like weasel tendencies. |
parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 169
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 9:59 pm: | |
Chris D,
Willie Randolph is not the guy and Ken Macha is the guy based on what? Billy Beane does not walk on water. Maybe Billy knows that Art will be looking for a big contract after next season and he can get Ken Macha at a discount rate for 3 years. It is all about keeping the payroll down in Oakland.
That being said I'm not sure that Art will tune the Mets around considering their current personnel. Well wait till next year. |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 254
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 1:48 am: | |
Bench: Explain to me ... Why is Willie Randolph a qualified, died in the wool, MLB baseball manager? Because he played on some really good teams? Because he was a coach for Joe Toree? Willie has never been "the guy". Never the guy in the 70's Yankee clubhouse ... Never the guy on Joe's staff ... Willie don't sit next to Joe. Again, please, explain to me why, why!, you are (WERE) so anamoured with Willie ...
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ml1
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 265
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:16 am: | |
Please, someone explain to me why Howe is such a terrible choice? Did the A's manage themselves to two straight 100 win seasons? And precisely when did Sweet Lou become a genius?
I'm a lifelong Mets fan, but other Mets fans make me nuts. Give the guy a chance (of course to most Mets fans that means 3 innings on Opening Day, then they'll start booing). No wonder most baseball folks think the Mets have the most fickle fans in all of sports.
btw -- Anybody remember the Daily News backpage headline "CLUELESS JOE" when the Yanks hired Torre?
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Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 255
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:23 am: | |
ml1: Yeah, you're right, Howe's not a bad choice. I guess my frustration is the perception that the Mets always "settle" ... If they wanted Lou as bad as they said they did, they should've got him. Good article in the Ledger today, talking about Howe's ability to handle young players and this may be the direction the Mets are planning to go in. That's great. I am sick of Mo "The Manatee" and the rest of those over paid dopes.
How many days until pitchers and catchers?
Did anyone notice that the momentum in the Series shift on two hits that barely went 65 feet ... |
Redsox
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Username: Redsox
Post Number: 113
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 11:51 am: | |
whoop da dee
sox in 2003
and as always,
nomar is better |
ml1
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 269
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 1:50 pm: | |
Howe looked pretty good in pinstripes yesterday. Let's hope they get him some outfielders who can hit!
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ml1
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 270
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 1:52 pm: | |
Howe looked pretty good in pinstripes yesterday. Let's hope they get him some outfielders who can hit!
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E&K
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Username: Ashmilby
Post Number: 24
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 3:37 pm: | |
Nomar's good. But the word is that Nomar's being shopped around. Soon as Boston gets their manager, they're going to dangle Nomar and maybe Pedro. Nomar would look pretty good in a Mets uniform, come to think of it. |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 266
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 1, 2002 - 10:01 am: | |
"Mets To Mo: LOSE SOME WEIGHT YOU FAT BASTARD!"
Too funny ... |
parkbench87
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Username: Parkbench87
Post Number: 171
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 1, 2002 - 11:38 am: | |
Chris D,
Never too late to respond. This is all about a feeling. You think Ken Macha is the guy and I think Willie would have been a good choice. Who cares if he was the guy in the Yankee clubhouse. Baseball history almost always shows that "The Guy" in the clubhouse almost never makes a good manager.
Who cares who sits next to Joe? Do you see Don Zimmer getting a managers job anytime soon?
Willie is from New York, he's young, and in my opinion he has a professional winning attitude. If Ned Yost and this Wedge guy can get jobs in Milwaukee and Cleveland respectively I'm perplexed as to why Willie can't get hired. |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 268
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 1, 2002 - 4:58 pm: | |
Well, Wedge impressed some people by actually managing in the minors. "Wedge managed Cleveland's Triple-A team in Buffalo the past two seasons. He led the Bisons to a 178-108 record and was selected minor league manager of the year by The Sporting News after this season". (From ESPN.com)
Yost managed in the minors for three seasons and then coach third base for four years ... With the Braves. They know a little about winning.
Macha: "He just completed his 13th season on a major league coaching staff. That includes stints with Montreal and California. He was the Eastern League manager of the year in 1996 with Double-A Trenton, and led Triple-A Pawtucket to two winning seasons". (From ESPN.com)
All I can say is that at least four major GMs agreed with me. Willie should bite the bullet and go manage in the minors. Hell, he could probably get a spot in Trenton, which would be close to home. Let him prove, like Macha, Wedge and Yost, that he can manage a baseball team.
How many days until pitchers and catchers?! |
wharfrat
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Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 635
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 1, 2002 - 6:31 pm: | |
Question-
If you are Wedge supporter does this make you a Wedgie? |
ml1
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Username: Ml1
Post Number: 809
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 1, 2003 - 2:06 pm: | |
Do I know Mets fans, or what?
One game and the tabloids are already in a panic. I'm glad I'm not listening the 'FAN today... |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 490
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 1, 2003 - 7:51 pm: | |
"Baseball will break your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone. You count on it, you rely on it to buffer the passage of time, to keep the memory of sunshine and high skies alive, and then, just when the days are all twilight, when you need it most, it stops."
-A. Bartlett Giamatti |
Chris Dickson
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Username: Ironman
Post Number: 493
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 2, 2003 - 9:21 pm: | |
Great trivia question ...
Name the eight position players who have won back-to-back MVP titles ...
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1B -
2B -
3B -
SS -
OF -
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