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mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 277
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 3:13 pm: | 
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Can someone please explain the purpose of Bill Calabrese's quote of George Washington that was printed in yesterday's News Record:
"it's not important if God is on our side, what is important is that we are on the side of God and this community is on the side of God"
I don't understand what this quote has to do with an election and it seemed a little Baby Bush-esque to be invoking God in a political context.
Is Billy trying to say "God wanted him to win a political election"???
I honestly don't understand...can someone please explain. |
Edwin R. Matthews
Citizen
Username: Edwinrmatthews
Post Number: 19
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 5:49 pm: |
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I don't want to sound condisending but if uou don't understand that then no one will be able to explain it to you |
mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 278
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 5:57 pm: |
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Edwin,
Since you seem to know everything, why don't you try explaining it to someone as dumb as me & what it had to do with an election?
Really...can you? |
mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 279
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 6:15 pm: |
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The funniest part is that not only is it Bush-esque to invoke religion, but it's even more Bush-esque to MISQUOTE.
According to several searches I performed, this quote is attributable to ABRAHAM LINCOLN, not George Washington. |
noracoombs
Citizen
Username: Noracoombs
Post Number: 15
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 6:23 pm: |
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that quote was funny. I read it to my husband last night and we both laughed out loud.
Sorry, but that quote just smacks of self-importance, IMO. |
Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4678
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 6:42 pm: |
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Gonna lose the agnostic vote next time if he's not careful ;)
I don't care what Bill says, who he quotes (or maybe misquotes), but I'd prefer he say things online, too. And I'm glad for Mr. Matthews' continued presence here. |
J. Crohn
Citizen
Username: Jcrohn
Post Number: 86
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 8:59 pm: |
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"I don't want to sound condisending but if uou don't understand that then no one will be able to explain it to you"
I don't want to sound condisending, but it's condescending.
"Condisending" is when our commander in chief dispatches his national security advisor to a foreign country to spell things out for some recalcitrant world leader under Gallic influence.
I too thought the God quote was a very odd and slightly inappropriate thing for Bill Calabrese to utter, but I found it endearing in some way I can't explain. |
us2innj
Citizen
Username: Us2innj
Post Number: 687
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:31 pm: |
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This is too heady for us. We are going back to watching the Daytime Emmy Awards.
he he |
lseltzer
Citizen
Username: Lseltzer
Post Number: 1491
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:35 pm: |
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I can't find any attribution for this quote to anyone. Where'd you find it Mayhewdrive? (And don't assume that the News Record got the quote right.) |
Edwin R. Matthews
Citizen
Username: Edwinrmatthews
Post Number: 20
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 9:48 pm: |
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Maybe you just had to be there. |
mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 280
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 10:37 pm: |
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lseltzer,
The quote by Billy was printed in the News Record & can be read at www.mysouthorange.com
I found Atttribution for the quote to Lincoln at the following sites (doing just a very quick search):
http://www.nyfrf.org/uspresid.htm
http://ilovefreedom.com/quotations/Abraham_Lincoln.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/11/21/63310.shtml
http://edwards.senate.gov/press/prayer_breakfast_2002.html
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/3797/quotes.html
http://www.chiasmus.com/archive/msg00162.html
I think you get the point. If he was trying to be profound(?) he could have at least taken 2 seconds to do some research. |
Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 1004
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:15 pm: |
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Clearly a case of a mortal moved, humbled, and reinspired by election to yet another term, to the point where he commits the mortal sin (in today's secular world) of stating his commitment to an administration -- and a town -- working for Good.
Despite his spelling gaffes, Mr. Matthews "gets it". Pity young rapscallions who are too cool to get corny. Up here, we like Frank Capra. Our Titans United Performing Arts Center (TUPAC) features a year-long Capra Marathon every century or so. You might mention THAT to the folks looking for quality programming down there...
--The Oracle Of MOL
BTW: It's Bill, NOT Billy. Billy runs Reservoir Restaurant, Bill runs the Prescription Counter. Wise up! |
Shelley Stile
Citizen
Username: Sstile
Post Number: 31
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 11:43 pm: |
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I see that neither time nor politics has changed Ed Matthews. G-d has nothing to do with this election...and I shudder to think there is any connection whatsoever to George Bush. I didn't get the quote either Michael. Same old you-know-what! |
hariseldon
Citizen
Username: Hariseldon
Post Number: 129
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 9:36 am: |
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Who's Michael, Shelley? |
Marilyn May
Citizen
Username: Marilynmay
Post Number: 126
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 2:21 pm: |
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Who said that if God is a sports fan then God probably roots for the New York Yankees? And if God is a Yankee fan does that mean that God wears pinstripes? If so is God a conservative republican? If so would that explain a lot about her? |
swato
Citizen
Username: Swato
Post Number: 66
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 4:16 pm: |
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I don't understand why some folks are so upset about what Bill said and in what context he said it in. We all have the right to say whatever we want to say. And if you disagree with what he said that’s fine. I'm glad we have a place where we can vent...Hehehehehe
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Washashore
Citizen
Username: Washashore
Post Number: 14
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, May 17, 2003 - 8:24 pm: |
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Is something GOOD because God loves it, or does God love it because it is GOOD? |
Brian O'Leary
Citizen
Username: Brianoleary
Post Number: 1422
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 9:42 am: |
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It is just my view, but when I read what Bill said in the News-Record, I was left with the impression that he felt I was on the other side of God (this is generally not the desirable place). Politicians invoke deities with some frequency; it was the "side" part that kind of threw me. If I have a chance, I'll ask him what he meant. |
J. Crohn
Citizen
Username: Jcrohn
Post Number: 87
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:01 am: |
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"It is just my view, but when I read what Bill said in the News-Record, I was left with the impression that he felt I was on the other side of God..."
It's the cloven hooves.
Next election, wear shoes. |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 1604
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:11 am: |
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When faced with opponents who said, "No PILOT",
The incumbent remained staunchly pro-PILOT.
Upon his re-election
He offered this reflection:
"It's simple - God is my co-pilot!"
Sorry, I know this isn't the Haiku thread, but I just couldn't help myself. I couldn't figure out why this was even a topic of conversation, but to each his own.
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Dave Ross
Supporter
Username: Dave
Post Number: 4684
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:44 am: |
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"What is Truth?"
-Pontius PILOT |
J. Crohn
Citizen
Username: Jcrohn
Post Number: 89
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 7:57 pm: |
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That was a limerick, Nohero, not a haiku.
This is a haiku:
God stands on our side
Satan's losing candidate
Scowls menacingly
Or:
Demonic Dennis
Cloven hooves give him away
Could have been mayor
And:
Mild mannered, balding
Calculator of budgets
Disliked that PILOT
Still more:
Southern Orange town
Spring blossom demolition
Seasons change slowly
(One could go on indefinitely.) |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 1606
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 9:28 pm: |
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J. Crohn is correct.
I mis-named my limerick.
Haiku'd that happen?
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