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Hank Zona
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Post Number: 614
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Posted on Thursday, June 5, 2003 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The US House voted 372-0 on Monday to honor Sammy Sosa for his 500th home run and for being a great role model. He's to receive the proclamation from a group of Illinois congressional representatives before the game tomorrow against the Yankees (the first time the Yankees have played in Wrigley Field since 1938). The vote in Congress was a rare display of unanimous bipartisanship, so neither side can point fingers at the other since Sammy had the little corked bat incident the day after the vote. He probably either made an honest mistake, or wanted to really jack one out to celebrate the honor bestowed upon him. (Despite this semi-scandal, Sammy is most likely more relieved that he doesnt wear a Mets uniform after the double dip against the Mighty Brewers today.)
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sbenois
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Posted on Thursday, June 5, 2003 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All 76 of his other bats were clean as were the five in the Hall of Fame.

I think he's on the level.

Except, of course, for the steroids he's been taking for 10 years.
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lseltzer
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Posted on Friday, June 6, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've always thought this corking stuff was crap. The force on the ball is a function of bat speed and the mass of the bat itself. Corking increases bat speed but decreases mass. NPR actually interviewed physicists today about it and the consenses was that they were skeptical it was helpful and potentially could diminish power. Maybe the real answer is to do like Barry Bonds and choke up.
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ajc
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Posted on Friday, June 6, 2003 - 12:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a problem with this incident! Sammy is suppose to be a professional....

Why wasn't the bat properly marked? Why couldn't he tell the difference by the weight, or any other condition? I mean he is suppose to be a professional isn't he? Why would a slugger like him ever need to use a phony baloney bat anyway?
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lseltzer
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Posted on Friday, June 6, 2003 - 6:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure he would know. If it's lighter enough to make a difference he'd know as soon as he picked it up.

Please don't interpret what I said before as defending corking. It's a rule violation. I just think it's a stupid rule violation.
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#9Dream
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Posted on Friday, June 6, 2003 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sammy on the subject of steroids:

http://baseball.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fsportsillustr ated.cnn.com%2Finside_game%2Fmagazine%2Flife_of_reilly%2Fnews%2F2002%2F07%2F02%2 Flife_of_reilly%2F
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greenetree
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Posted on Friday, June 6, 2003 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey. Cork happens....
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Hank Zona
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Posted on Friday, June 6, 2003 - 5:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The truly forward thinking batting cheaters will eventually switch from cork to plastic and screw-top, just as the wine industry is.

And it is a shame..Sosa probably did use that one bat, but its still a shadow cast over someone whos image at least is a very positive one. Of course, leave it to the man whos frame is the mold for the positive imaged athlete, David Wells, to say Sosa should be suspended and not allowed to appeal so he's able to play against the Yankees this weekend.
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Willis Van Devanter
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Posted on Monday, June 9, 2003 - 9:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lseltzer, if I remember correctly, the formula for momentum is 1/2mv^2, where m=mass and v=velocity. Since velocity is squared and mass is not, increasing velocity and decreasing mass by the same amount will still increase momentum.
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I respectfully dissent.
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lseltzer
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Posted on Monday, June 9, 2003 - 11:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is momentum really the appropriate measure of force for a bat-on-ball?
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kathy
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 1:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, momentum is what is transferred when two objects collide. (Or impact--I think I just read in a Bill Bryson book that collisions necessarily involve two moving objects.) But momentum is only the product of mass and velocity, or mv.

I think that Willis is thinking of the distance covered by an accelerating object: if starting from rest, d=1/2 at^2.
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smithford
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kathy is correct, momentum is the product of mass and velocity.

Force = ma, where m=mass and a=acceleration.

I think Willis was thinking of kinetic energy, which is K = 1/2mv^2.

Momentum and energy are both conserved in collision, but in the real world, (bat hitting ball), some of it will be "lost" (in the sense of not being put towards the goal of hitting the ball far due to friction, imparting angular motion to the ball, etc.

However, for a particle with intial position x0, speed v, and acted on by constant acceleration a, the final position x at time t is given by

x=x0+vt+1/2at^2.

This gets more complicated in the situation of the bat hitting the ball, since the iniital velocity is actually negative (ball is travelling towards batter), and acceleration is rapidly decreasing due to friction (air resistance).
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#9Dream
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Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL, I can just see Sammy working out these formulas in the locker room.....

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