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sylad
Citizen
Username: Sylad
Post Number: 22
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:35 am: | 
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Does the town cover this or does the homeowner? |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 558
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:50 am: |
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The homeowner is responsible for repairs, but check with the village engineer (Sal Renda) to make sure your street is not scheduled to have work done on the curbs/sidewalks and the street before having any work done. |
peteglider
Citizen
Username: Peteglider
Post Number: 209
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:28 pm: |
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I came from Hillsborough, NJ and before that West Windsor, NJ -- where the town was responsible for the curbs and sidewalks.
Is SOV unique in making homeowners responsible for this? I found out about it when I was looking at homes -- but I think its absurb -- since the curbs are mostly damaged by others and frequently by the snow plow!
Curious...
Pete
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mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 560
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 12:46 pm: |
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In most towns, the homeowner is responsible.
When the village repaves a street, the curbs and/or the sidewalks are often included in the project.
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woodstock
Citizen
Username: Woodstock
Post Number: 317
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 1:01 pm: |
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Mr. Rosner,
This might be true in NJ, but in any other places I've lived, the homeowner was only responsible for keeping the walkway clean (snow, leaves, etc). The town/city was responsible for maintenance. Only in this great state of ours are individual citizens responsible for specific pieces of public property.
Waiting For The Electrician, Or Someone Like Him
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mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 561
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 2:30 pm: |
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I owned in NY at one time. Same as NJ, homeowner is responsible. I called a good friend in Sarasota, Fl. - Same as NJ, homeowner pays.
In many towns in NJ, the town never does curb and sidewalk repairs at all. S. Orange does. In NYC if they repair your sidewalk, they send you a bill. |
doublea
Citizen
Username: Doublea
Post Number: 265
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 3:18 pm: |
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Mark: Maybe SO should check-out the program Westfield has. In Westfield (I know this because my son just bought a house there) homeowners sign -up and put their names on a list with the town of Westfield to have their sidewalks paved. The paving is done on a regular basis. Because Westfield is able to get the work done on a volume basis, the cost is substantially lower for each homeowner. This
seems like something SO should check out. |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 562
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 3:25 pm: |
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We used to have a program like that where the rate the village negotiated was available to all homeowners.
I know that is how I had my sidewalk repaired many years ago. I don't remember the reason the program was discontinued but I can find out.
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patjoyce
Citizen
Username: Patjoyce
Post Number: 17
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 11:32 pm: |
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What we try to do now is notify all residents on a particular street prior to re-paving or curb work being done in the area. We then tell the residents that they are free to negotiate a price (hopefully reduced, since the contractor is on the street anyway) with the contractor to repair the homeowners sidewalk or driveway. The engineer's office has a list of those streets which are scheduled for repair this fall
Patrick |
singlemalt
Citizen
Username: Singlemalt
Post Number: 62
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 7:08 pm: |
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Pat,
The area in the newstead is a disgrace. The streets and curbs have been in place since the development was built in the 20's and 30's. How much longer will we pay the highest taxes in SOV and have the worst streets???
Malt |
patjoyce
Citizen
Username: Patjoyce
Post Number: 19
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 4:56 pm: |
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North Newstead will be micro-paved before the winter. The other half of Newstead was delayed because of the gas lines which are being dug along Glenview. We wanted that work to be completed before starting the streets South of the school. The worst streets will be put on a list for re-paving and we will try to co-ordinate the micro-paving with the re-paving.
Patrick |
Allan J Rosen
Citizen
Username: Allanrosen
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 6:23 pm: |
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Micro-paving aka chip-sealing aka thin layer overlay is protective but certainly is not a substitute for repaving and fixing curbs. |
mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 350
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 11:35 pm: |
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I noticed that numerous potholes along Mayhew Drive and the surrounding streets are "circled" in spray paint. Are the streets scheduled for patching, paving or was this a pre-inspection to note existing "damage" prior to all the heavy construction equipment that will be rumbling up & down the streets for the Quarry construction creating further potholes? |
singlemalt
Citizen
Username: Singlemalt
Post Number: 63
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 11:00 am: |
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>>The worst streets will be put on a list for re-paving and we will try to co-ordinate the micro-paving with the re-paving.<<
Can you please define? re-paving = new curbs, sidewalk, streets, etc.
Micropaving = dropping rocks over hot tar - same sidewalks, curbs, etc.
I have never complained or questioned my annual tax increase. However, other parts of South Orange have had their streets, curbs, sidewalks and gutters completely modernized (see Lenox Ave. above Wyoming) while I have watched the South Newstead area continue to fall apart. I spoke with the village engineer earlier this year and was told nothing has been done to replace the above items since the development was constructed over 70 years ago and that there is no plan to upgrade (although he agreed the area was in complete disrepair).
Every winter I watch the following occur on the corner of Speir and Underhill:
1. Water with nowhere to go (no gutters) sits in the middle of the intersection and freezes.
2. Cars slide by hitting curbs (hopefully no children or pedestrians) on the frozen pond.
3. The Village will send a salt truck to drop a ton of salt all over the entire intersection.
4. Large potholes appear.
5. The public works department comes by and throws patch mix into the potholes but unfortunately this does not work since the intersection is always wet from sump pumps, pools, and running water into the street with nowhere to drain.
6. Repeat #1
enough with the cheap solutions - fix it and fix it right.
Calling the village results in nothing but finger pointing. Public Works blames in on the engineer, the engineer blames it on Public Works! Can our elected trustees please do something????
Your assistance and comments are appreciated.
Thank you.
Malt
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mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 565
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 2:46 pm: |
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Malt: I like your endless loop which sometimes seems how government works.
Several years ago the village engineer looked at every street in town and came up with a long term plan to pave or microseal every street.
Each year the engineer comes to the Board of Trustees with a recommendation for which streets need to be repaved or repaired. We rely on his input and almost without exception we have followed his advice.
I will ask him to look at that intersection again and for him to give us what options are available to fix the problem(s) and what he thinks would be the best solution. At that point, I will post on here what he comes up with.
No matter what the solution, if it is not in this year's budget it will be a project that (at best) would be done next summer/fall.
I will try to get back to you before the October conference agenda meeting.
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singlemalt
Citizen
Username: Singlemalt
Post Number: 65
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 3:07 pm: |
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Thanks Mark - Fyi..... the intersection referenced above is Speir and Overhill (not Underhill). I look forward to hearing an update. |
mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 351
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 3:09 pm: |
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Mark,
You may have missed my post above....any idea why numerous potholes on Mayhew & surrounding streets are circled in spray paint? |
mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 566
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 3:17 pm: |
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Mayhewdrive: I was still trying to find out why, but I think it is earmarked to be microsealed. I will confirm either way. |
patjoyce
Citizen
Username: Patjoyce
Post Number: 21
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 10:53 am: |
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The markings were created to alert the DPW to patch those areas prior to micro-paving.
Patrick |
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