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63 Shell
Citizen
Username: 63_shell
Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:34 am: | 
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I need some guidance....We recently had our roof replaced(all 3 layers taken off). A beautiful job....But it seems we've failed inspection...According to the inspector, since we have an insulated/ finished attic it must be vented....When I called my roofer he said he didn't know that, will come back next week and fix and talk about $$ then. Am I nuts? This guy got the permit, he's the professional and I think should know the codes...Do I have to pay for his mistake? He's done other jobs for us in the past w/o issue. |
jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3139
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 10:56 am: |
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In my opinion, the roofer would not know what is under the subroof of your house.
Depending how the inside was finished, the roofer may not ever see that side.
The fix is not a roofer thing. The inside of the attic needs the work. Assuming that who ever put the finish work in did not vent it, you will need to rip all the drywall down and remove the insulation (if it is there).
Then you will need to install vent channels from the soffit to the peak, drill soffit vent holes, re-install insulation then new drywall.
I even like to add a power vent fan with thermosat to make sure the air moves with volume.
In my opinion, you own this not the roofer.
BTW, this is why one should pull permits when doing work, the inspector would have never allowed the attic work to be done with out proper venting. |
63 Shell
Citizen
Username: 63_shell
Post Number: 2
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:28 pm: |
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Thank you for the info.....The roofer was in the house last spring to install new windows...As far as the finishing of the attic, it was done in 1992 by the previous owners who cut all kinds of corners. But I have copies of those permits.The venting code is only 5 years old. What does "pull permits" mean?...Ahhh the joys of home ownership. |
jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3140
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:50 pm: |
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If you have copies of permits from that project, then the home owner 'pulled permits' or filed for and received permits.
It that is the case and the vent codes are that new, tell the inspector and discuss grand father clauses. |
bobk
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Username: Bobk
Post Number: 3425
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 12:58 pm: |
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The fact that there were three layers of shingles on the roof strongly suggests that the bottom layer was the orginal cedar shingles nailed to battens (almost universaly used here from the teens through the thirties). It would be pretty hard for the roofer not to see the insulation. My guess is that he was not aware of the new code requirements, especially if he was not local.
63, was new plywood applied for the roof deck? |
jfburch
Citizen
Username: Jfburch
Post Number: 819
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 1:06 pm: |
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We've got lack of venting issues in our attic and our inspector flagged them when we were buying the house. Among other things, as I understand it, proper venting will make your roof last longer.
And since we're on the subject, George, or anyone, who would you recommend for installing attic vents? |
63 Shell
Citizen
Username: 63_shell
Post Number: 3
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 1:49 pm: |
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Yes bobk, the roof was stripped to nothing and plywood was put on first...You could see the crawlspaces and back of drywall from the street. |
jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3141
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 2:02 pm: |
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Thinking about this over lunch.
Regardless of when the code went into effect, I would not suggest that you leave the venting as it is under any 'grandfather' clause.
Bottom line, not venting will cause your new roof to fail. You need to solve this.
Humm, help me with something, if you could see crawlspaces and the drywall, does this mean that the voids are not insulated? If not you have some options here.
For a start, have your roofer consider putting in a 'Ridge Vent' system. He can still do that.
It is just a start, you have more to do.
Who would I use??? Not a roofer for anything beyond the ridge vent. I'd use me.
I was doing this kind of work for a while but went back to a real job in the city.
I'm just finishing this exact job for a client in SO/WO.
I don't have anyone to recommend. Others on this board recommend a few of the larger contractors. |
63 Shell
Citizen
Username: 63_shell
Post Number: 4
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 6:18 pm: |
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jgberkeley- The voids were insulated in some places but just pressed into place...the roofer rolled up the insulation and then put it back. Yes! Ridge vent is what the inspector said. So shouldn't my roofer have known to do that.... He's done many roofs in the past 5 years in the area..Also, What else needs to be done?-Shell |
Lizziecat
Citizen
Username: Lizziecat
Post Number: 41
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 8:23 pm: |
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Didn't you have the house inspected before you bought it? |
Dave Ross
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 5228
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 8:35 pm: |
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We just had a new roof put on and there's a ridge vent. Didn't have to ask for it; wasn't a line item in the estimate. If roofer got the permit, then requirement should have been known to them, imo. |
Ed May
Citizen
Username: Edmay
Post Number: 1747
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 8:55 pm: |
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ditto
Ed May
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jgberkeley
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Username: Jgberkeley
Post Number: 3144
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 9:56 pm: |
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I'd have to agree with the ridge vent. They are real standard on full rip roof jobs. (not on overlays) I hope you did not use my roofer!! I'd like to think that he would never have skipped on the ridge vent.
But, the ridge vent may get the inspector off your back. The real problem is to promote good air flow and that insulation may present a problem.
If you don't have the air moving, the heat will build up and cook your roof from both sides, and thus reduce the life of the roof. If you put 20 year shingles up, you may get 5 out of them. Oh and your warranty will be void. |
mim
Citizen
Username: Mim
Post Number: 283
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 9:17 am: |
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When we got estimates for our new roof (1999?), only one roofer included a ridge vent in his standard estimate. This WAS A 'full rip roof job,' yet only that single roofer seemed to feel it was necessary! (Needless to say, he got the job.) |
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