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Spanky
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Post Number: 18
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Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anyone have an experience with this?
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ats3
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 - 9:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got a letter last week in the mail. Looks like they did a group mailing.
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Wendyn
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 8:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No experience with this site but I know a bit about child modeling.

I met with a child modelling "management company once. Basically they wanted $$ upfront to take pics and do mailings to NYC modeling agencies, and then take 10% to rep your kid if they got any jobs.

This is pretty silly because if you really want to get your baby/kids into modeling the best way is simply to send a photo & stats to the actual agencies' kids divisions. They will contact you if they are interested and give you info on how the modeling process works. You need to be free to go (usually to NYC) with short notice (a day or so) and sit in line with hundreds of other kids for a tryout. If you kid gets picked then you have to come back for the "shoot".

In any case parents.com magazine's website has a list of NYC modeling agencies with a list of what you need to send them to see if they are interested.

Good luck!
Wendy
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Bjp
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Post Number: 198
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 8:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm confused. Why in the world would anyone want his/her child to be a model?
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SoOrLady
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Post Number: 100
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 8:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

College tuition? People take their kids to model when they're babies and little tykes. Ones who make it to the national market make a good deal of money and then leave once their child goes to school.
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Bjp
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Post Number: 199
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 9:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SoOrLady, that's like trying to groom a child to play in the NBA. It's a longshot...and there's soooooo much bad that can happen along the way.

It's all about parents' egos.
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1-2many
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 9:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

putting the $$$ into the tuition fund SOUNDS great... but is that what really happens? or do home improvements suddently become much more attainable ("well, the increase in value of the house will pay for college), or new cars, or plastic surgery, or...?

agreed, bjp. I think this one is mostly ego-driven. I have to force myself NOT to roll my eyes when I hear someone say they or their kid "used to model" - people LOVE dropping that line.
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peteglider
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 9:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It may be about connections, too. I had a neighbor with 2 adorable, although not exceptionally adorable (!) baby daughters.

Because he is a writer for several mags (Parenting, Mens Health etc.) -- he has the connections. Both of his daughters appeared on multiple covers, and over the years in photoshoots in ads, too. (they always use the "best" shot of the year on their Christmas card)

It also helps that he and his wife are a very atractive, outgoing, and "type A" profile. (IMO)

He recently said that the girls income had funded the college accounts. (they are now 10 and 12).

So -- if you can connect with someone in magazine publishing and had a penchant for cute kids (probably more so than advertising) -- you may increase your odds!

Good luck!

Pete
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kevin
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Post Number: 106
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 1:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funded college accounts? I guess things have changed. When I was a youngster in the 70s, my payment for a photoshoot was maybe $50 for the day max and if I were lucky, I got to keep the product that I was modeling (like Hush Puppies shoes).

I probably needed better representation...

It also didn't last long for me. I hated doing it and refused to go many times. A neighbor at the time needed someone for a shoot and saw me riding my bigwheel in the street - that is how it started.






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Wendyn
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 1:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bjp:
"SoOrLady, that's like trying to groom a child to play in the NBA. It's a longshot...and there's soooooo much bad that can happen along the way."

???

Makes no sense to me. If you have free time and a pre-school aged kid what is the harm? You stand in line, have the kid's pic taken, maybe get some jobs, hopefully bank away some money (or spend it, who cares). It is not work for a pre-schooler to sit in front of a camera. They do it for free at your house all the time. And if they don't like it, then you stop going. There is no "grooming" involved (except hair maybe)...it isn't as if most parents expect their kid to become an adult model. And the bad side...the kid might not like sitting still for pics? I don't see many 3 year old child models becoming heroin addicts. We aren't talking fashion shows like the Ramsey girl, we are talking magazine and catalog pics.

All parents think their kid is the cutest and want to show them off. Ego? Yep, you bet I am proud that I have 2 cute kids. If I had time I would definitely see if they could model and make some cash to benefit the family (be it their already established 529-college funds, the house addition we are working on, or whatever). And if I really thought they didn't like it I would stop going, just as I would stop music lessons if they didn't like them.

Unfortunately although my kids are VERY cute, I work full time and modeling isn't feasible. But if you have the time go for it!
Wendy
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SoOrLady
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exactly, Wendy. I know three families who took advantage of the opportunity when their kids were small. All the money earned was banked for college. None of the kids modeled after they started school - the parents thought it would be better for them to have the "normal" childhood of sports, dancing class, music lessons, art classes etc.
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1-2many
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

honestly, I don't have a strong feeling here.

but I find it kind of ironic that it seems the only way you can have the time to take your kid to modeling jobs, is if you yourself don't have a job. the parent doesn't work but the kid does - ?! where do I sign up?
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algebra2
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds good to me!
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Bjp
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Post Number: 200
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The benign approach you describe causes no harm, Wendyn and SoOrLady, but there are a ton of kids in this country who are exploited in the name of modeling. Profiting from your children's looks to make your house bigger? Primping (note: I didn't say pimping) your children because you have too much time on your hands? That's not a very long way from the awful world of those Jon Benets.



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Bjp
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Post Number: 201
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

P.S., Spanky, sorry for hijacking your thread.
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sportsnut
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 2:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My college roommate earned enough money for two years of college through the modeling he did. The modeling led to small parts in the ABC Afterschool specials and a couple of national commercials. In fact every year he gets a residual for his part in "The Easter Bunny is Coming to Town."

Since I had the absolutely cutest baby boy in the world (dimples and all) I considered it. But after talking to said roommate decided against it. Personal choice. To each his own.
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greenetree
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 3:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Question - perhaps I am naive since I don't have kids, but....

How do you get a child that young to stand in line for hours & then cooperate at a photo shoot? And still look cute & photogenic? Do they cooperate for hair & make-up? Do photographers work around nap times? Are kids who model less, well, childlike, than others?

I'm just trying to picture my incredibly personable, gorgeous and photogenic 3 year old niece waiting nicely in a line for more than 4 minutes. HA!
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Mplwdladee
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Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 5:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dont know if this was said cause some people had a lot of judgement and no answers.
Never ever pay anything upfront. Send your kids pic to an agent they'll accept or reject and if he lands something(a job) the agent I think takes 10-20 percent. The NJ.com thing is a scam. There are reputable agencies in NJ as well at NYC but its a whole lot of running around on go-sees and your kid may not even get in the mag. Plus the cost of driving to NYC, parking, and sitting around exceeds what your child will get paid. Its about 150 for a cover I recall..thats a whole lot of running around to set up a college fund. Commercials pay better fyi. The parents of some of these kids are loosers...very catty. I had the chance to see it as an observer and as a participant. Good luck

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