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Gerardryan
| | Posted on Friday, March 9, 2001 - 9:55 pm: | 
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Mem, dog is good eating. Really. I was on business in Seoul, out to a restaurant, and didn't want to offend my hosts, so...
They did say "It's not the same kind of dog you have at home"...
(ducking to avoid the flames) |
Dave
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 6:46 am: |
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... unless you have a "big" dog at home. |
Lseltzer
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 8:36 am: |
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Does it taste like chicken? |
Gerardryan
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 9:25 am: |
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The closest thing I've had to it was buffalo. |
Mem
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 11:02 am: |
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Anyone know if those insane turkeys in the res are good eats?
Jerry! Dog??!! Heavens to Betsy!!! Who is Betsy anyway?
Well, I hope it was still alive while you ate it.
Bacata - Thanks for the tip. Aged is great, but still alive and fresh is even better. |
Tom
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 7:15 pm: |
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I categorically refuse to eat anything cute. |
Mem
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 7:25 pm: |
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Tom,
I won't even go there... |
Gerardryan
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 7:45 pm: |
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Dog and kimchee. Heavens to who? |
Ejt
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 8:13 pm: |
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Mem, let's not go there with turkey eats again. You KNOW what I'm gonna recommend!! |
Dave
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 8:16 pm: |
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Deep fried scorpion, anyone? Mmmmmm. Crunchy. |
Nakaille
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 8:55 pm: |
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Dave, with or without stinger?
I had fried grasshopper in a junior high social studies class that was delicious. Like potato chips, not chicken.
Bacata |
Mem
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 9:07 pm: |
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BEAKS!!!! |
Ejt
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 9:28 pm: |
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Yum Yum eatum up! My dear departed Granny handed down an ancient recipe. It's sort of like an Ancient Chinese Secret but with nothing remotely Chinese involved! You know what IS involved though and I must say it again:
Give Beaks A Chance!! |
Mem
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 9:54 pm: |
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I'll say it one more time: you never know where their little mouths have been. |
Bix
| | Posted on Saturday, March 10, 2001 - 10:44 pm: |
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Kim Chee with Lah See. mmmmm |
Dave
| | Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 7:53 am: |
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Oh, the stinger's the best part. |
Bix
| | Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 10:39 am: |
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I once had turkey in Buffalo. Or was that buffalo in Turkey? Oh, now i remember, it was chili in Greece. No, that was grease in Chile.
B|X |
Bets
| | Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2001 - 5:20 pm: |
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Heavens to me?? Cool! |
Mem
| | Posted on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 9:59 am: |
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Betsy! There you are! We were wondering who you were. Well, here, have some more heavens. |
Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 729
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 9:56 am: |
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Attention Mr. Rosner!
Gristede's Supermarkets are evidently looking to expand into NJ, targeting shoppers who would patronize Kings for their quality, but who, in addition to the gourmet-style food service, desire more supermarket-style prices and selection.
Mr. Rosner, has there been any attempt by the B.O.T. to attract Gristede's to our village? If not, how about taking a shot at them, since they are reportedly interested in looking at sites in Essex County? |
Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 65
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:37 am: |
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Having grown up with Gristede's, I would certainly love to have them in S. Orange. Currently, the proposed developer of the shop-rite site is supposed to be going before the planning board in September (I know, it seems like an eternity since the original plans were announced), and if they get approval, will start renovations and construction.
The developer already has an agreement with a supermarket. I think it would be best if the village let the developer continue and only step in if the current supermarket pulls out of the deal (I am not expecting that to happen).
Of course, it would be very interesting if Gristede's tried to open in a different location or to take over the Pathmark.
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Growler
Citizen
Username: Growler
Post Number: 179
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 1:37 pm: |
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Out the Pathmark!!! Please!!! |
Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 730
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:22 am: |
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What's the name of the developer of the Shoprite site? |
Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 66
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:46 pm: |
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I will get their names over the weekend. Just cannot remember it right now. At least two of the people live in S. Orange.
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Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 731
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 11:59 am: |
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Mark: Do you know what supermarket chain has entered into an agreement with the developer? If it's one with a solid rep, maybe I shouldn't be so nervous... |
Bets
Citizen
Username: Bets
Post Number: 199
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 1:37 pm: |
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????? |
Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 67
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 3:46 pm: |
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Summertime and I have been taking it easy, so that is the excuse for not getting right back on the questions.
The supermarket that has the agreement with the developer is not a major player, but seems to have a good reputation and currently has 7 or 8 stores in the NY-NJ area.
By today's standards most of the large chains want at least 50,000 square feet for a store (wegman's looks for 100,000 ) and the shop-rite is in the 11,000 sq. ft size. Because of the limitations of parking, lot size, etc, there are very few chains that are willing to open such a small store.
Some of the most successful and nicest supermarkets are small independents. And while it may be more comforting for some to hear the name of a large chain, just remember that they have had their share of problems.
I promise to give the name of the developer on here as soon as I get the company name and phone number. Again, I apologize for not responding sooner, but trying to take advantage of the summer.
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Soda
Citizen
Username: Soda
Post Number: 736
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:22 pm: |
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Mr. Rosner:
According to an article in today's Star-Ledger Business Section, Gristede's is looking at existing properties ranging from 25-30,000 square feet, and according to the firm's CEO, John Catsimatidis, they're negotiating for stores in Parsippany, Westfield, Franklin Twp, Livingston, and Short Hills (!).
Mr. Rosner, September is fast approaching. How difficult would it be for someone from South Orange's B.O.T. to send an immediate yet discrete message of potential interest to Mr. Catsimatidis (would a back-up plan not be a prudent, even cleverly opportunistic thing to have in mind!), in the unlikely event that the present applicants for South Orange's only available site not get Board approval? Maybe Mr. CEO might find the idea of a smaller Gristede's atttractive???
BTW, you still have yet to disclose names of either the supermarket developers or their intended retail partners. HOW ABOUT IT?! |
Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 68
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 3:44 pm: |
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SODA: Sorry, I have been very busy at work along with taking a few days off. The developer's name is Steve Skoller. There are other partners. Mr. Skoller and at least one of his partners live in S. Orange.
At this point, we already have an agreement with the developer and it is up to them to bring the supermarket into the space.
The shop-rite space is less than half the size of what Gristede's is looking for. When other chains looked at S. Orange and the space available, they decided to look elsewhere. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a reasonable way to put a large supermarket in the downtown. The pathmark is about the size of the store that Gristede's is looking for which obviously cannot be put on the shop-rite or Beifus sites.
We do have a back-up plan although becasue of the time element the B.O.T always needs to be looking at alternatives and ideas.
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Openspacer
Citizen
Username: Openspacer
Post Number: 32
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2002 - 5:03 pm: |
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Mrosner,
What are the proposed densities for the residential development that will take place on the Shop-Rite site? |
Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 69
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:02 am: |
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The plans have not been submitted to the planning board yet. I think they are prepared to submit their plans for the October planning board meeting. |
Lamppost
Citizen
Username: Lamppost
Post Number: 14
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:46 pm: |
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Mr. Rosner: I heard through the political grapevine, that you are planning to run for Village President this coming spring. Any truth to the rumor? |
Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 70
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 9:39 am: |
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I have no plans to run for village president in the next election.
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Mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 78
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 1:37 pm: |
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Mr. Rosner,
Since the Village is always stating the concern about the size of the Shop Rite site, I had an "out-of-the box" thought last night.
The Village has already placed the tennis courts by the pool in the redevelopment zone. Why not add the pool to the redevelopment zone and then you have a huge property for as big as a Supermarket as you want? The Village can then create a brand new pool/tennis court complex on the Quarry property. If the deal was structured properly and attractive enough, I bet the right developer of the Supermarket could even fund a large portion of the new pool/tennis courts.
This would appease the people who want a large brand new Supermarket and it would appease the people who don't want the Quarry developed into residential housing. It would also allow people to relax by the pool without the constant rumbling of trains.
What do you think?
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Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 71
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 3:02 pm: |
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I can honestly say the same thought crossed my mind about two years ago.
There are a lot of reasons why it would not work and problems that would be created, and I think some of them could be overcome. But the major reason it could not happen is the property the pool is on can not be used for any other purpose other than the town pool.
I can see the positives of the suggestion, but some of the negatives included:
A massive increase in traffic in a residential area (much more so than the proposed housing), especially on weekends when there would be hundreds of cars coming and going to the pool and/or to play tennis, etc.
I question the logistics of putting such a large supermarket on S. Orange ave. right there.
Not that I want to discuss this at lenght, it would also mean condemning several stores which I only think the village should do when it is used as a last resort.
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Mayhewdrive
Citizen
Username: Mayhewdrive
Post Number: 79
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 7:08 pm: |
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Mr. Rosner,
Thanks for responding. I guess great minds do think alike. 
Can you elaborate on your comment that "the property the pool is on can not be used for any other purpose other than the town pool"? How is that legally stipulated? If the property were replaced somewhere else wouldn't that suffice? Just like wetlands are routinely "relocated" or National Parks are unfortunately opened for logging & drilling, wouldn't this just be another example of a situtation where a legal "workaround" could be created?
With regard to traffic, I question whether it really would amount to more than will be generated by 198 units (or 70 units, or whatever is the proposal of the week) proposed for the quarry.
I'm also confused on your comment about questioning "the logistics of putting such a large supermarket on S. Orange Ave". I certainly wouldn't expect a "Costco" sized store, but I thought the problem was that we currently couldn't entertain any developers due to our limited space. I thought a "large" supermarket was the desire, but currently was not feasible with the space currently available.
In any event, the supermarket situtation is a source of great frustration (& embarassment) for many residents. I remember it was announced right after the election in 2001 that the Supermarket should be open by this Thanksgiving. I realize the contamination issues have slowed things down, but there still doesn't appear to a light at the end of the tunnel. Is there any ETA when we can expect to see a new Grocery store in South Orange?
Thanks. |
Mrosner
Citizen
Username: Mrosner
Post Number: 72
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 11:00 pm: |
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Mayhewdrive: I do not remember all the details about the property the pool is on (I think there was a thread on this way back when), but basically the land was donated to the village and the uses were specific. I do not think there was any clause allowing the location to be part of a land swap.
I meant that when you look at the size of the store and the parking required along with the traffic would be too much if it was over 30,000 square feet. When a supermarket says they want a store around 25,000 - 30,000 square feet, they usually talk about the retail space and do not include the extra space for storage, food prep, etc.
I am very frustrated about how slow the process has taken for the supermarket. As of now, the developer is supposed to go before the planning board in October. If they get approval, it will be around one year from then. That puts the project one year behind schedule. I have no explanation for the delays taking so long. I just try to remain optimistic that the project will get done. |
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