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lynnear
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Username: Lynnear

Post Number: 25
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 9, 2003 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm new to Maplewood and home ownership. What are the policies on tipping the mailperson, garbage people? What if you have an occasional gardener? Are home made goods acceptable or shunned? If it's money how much and how do you actually get anything to people like the garbage men? Catch them when they come?
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jgberkeley
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Post Number: 3288
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 9, 2003 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Relax, You moved out of NYC for a reason, this is it.

You don't owe a tip to anyone.

Now if you feel that someone has gone out of their way and you feel a tip is in order, that is up to you.

Tipping is not a way of life outside of NYC.
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duncanrogers
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 1040
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 8:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it is illegal to tip your mail carrier. So to skirt that we tend to use gift cards. The rest of the folks who work especially hard deserve some kind of recognition even if its not cash. Despite the fact that I DESPISE South Mountain disposal as it represents basically a hidden tax, the guys who schlep my trash through the rain and snow and put the cans back and are generally good guys get something from us "at this rolling time of year"
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Jackie Day
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Post Number: 178
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 1:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think tips are owed to garbagemen, plus any other service people: cleaning ladies, dog walkers, landscapers, nannies, etc. An alternative could be a gift certificate somewhere (well, not for the garbage guys and landscapers...I think they want cold hard cash) or a gift. A gift is especially nice for a nanny, who deserves something more personal than cash (although a gift certificate helps bridge that gap).
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jeffl
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Username: Jeffl

Post Number: 198
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 4:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have never known a mailman to refuse cash. Given that there are some who do and some who don't, how much do those who do, tip the mailman? garbage men? others?
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us2innj
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Username: Us2innj

Post Number: 887
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 5:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tips: Garbage collectors - $20 pp
Mail - $25
Housecleaner - 1 visit pay
Newspaper delivery - $20
Gardener - $10 - 15 pp

When we lived in a hi-rise in NYC, there were almost twenty people on the building staff, and the cost of annual holiday gifts was astronomical.




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jeffl
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 7:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

us2, I agree completely with each of those numbers...of course I don't have a housekeeper and gardener, but the rest, we're speakin' the same language
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Brett
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Post Number: 415
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 7:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newspaper looks high to me. The guy hauling the trash is more deserving,
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duncanrogers
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Post Number: 1045
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 8:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeff I didnt say they would refuse, just that it would be illegal.
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redY67
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 9:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How do you tip the garbage men? We are never around when they pick up.
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redY67
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Post Number: 162
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 9:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On another note, I would really like to tip my daughter's babysitters. She goes into the babysitting room where I work and they are so amazing. What is an appropriate tip?
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us2innj
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Post Number: 890
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 9:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have given them tips on their Saturday pickup. Otherwise, others have taped the envelopes to the area near where your pails are. You can also contact WM and they will assist you in getting the tips to your crew.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree

Post Number: 1816
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 1:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We never tip the mail carrier - Union job, good pay. If you really like yours (and we do) maybe some cookies or something; a token of appreciation. We started tipping the garbage men last year, the first year they actually emptied all the cans most of the time.

House cleaner gets a visit's pay. Landscaper - never thought of that one . I never see the guys & they aren'e even here by the time the season gets near. All the leaf-blowing, etc. is done. How do you manage that?

I do all my "personal grooming" at the same place: I tip my manicurist, hair stylist & masseuse. The girls at the front desk get a goody basket to share.
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1-2many
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Username: Wbg69

Post Number: 573
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

greenetree: what to tip the stylist? I have heard the cost of a cut but this seems outrageous to me. what do you think?

(ps - will you make up some extra of those "goody baskets" for sale? if not, what do you put in them?)
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greenetree
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Post Number: 1820
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 5:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1-2,

I tip the stylist $50, but that comes from me & The Spouse. She is very, very good to us. I purposely never schedule highlights or other services other than a straight cut at this time of year. It avoids the awkwardness of the big tip for the expensive services making the X-mas tip look smaller.

Depending on your relationship with stylist, a gift may be a better option. Mine is young & saving to get married, so I know she likes the money. I know most of them don't like booze; they get a lot. Unless, of course, you know that they are really into wine & get them a nice bottle.

Goodie basket: selling them sounds like a good idea, but I barely have time to do my own! Bake some cookies, throw in a small thing of Godiva chocolates or Lindt truffles, add nuts & you are good to go. Keep in mind that I do this because they are really wonderful about working with my hectic schedule. If you don't LOVE the reception staff at your salon, I wouldn't bother.
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kriss
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Username: Kriss

Post Number: 86
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mail carriers are prohibited from accepting cash. They are, however, allowed to accept gifts that are worth under $20.
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 1026
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 6:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Miss Manners says to tip domestic workers, including nannies and babysitters, a week's pay.

I tip my barber $5 each haircut. If I get a cut near Christmas, I tip him $10.

A friend of mine is a mail carrier in NYC and thinks a cash tip is fine. I'm not saying it is, but if you want to give cash, I bet nothing bad would come of it, except that perhaps you would raise or sustain expectations.

Tom Reingold
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1-2many
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Username: Wbg69

Post Number: 583
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 6:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

by Miss Manners' standards, then, garbage men would get, what, $7 between them? $80 per quarter, divided by 12 weeks per quarter, is $6.66/week. conversely, the standard suggested above of $20/guy, while this sounds reasonable on one hand, works out to a $60 total tip, which is 19% of your annual garbage bill. this seems high as a percentage.

but, that's coming from someone who resists the seeming spread of tipping (where's my @$#* tip?!). maybe $10/guy I can be happy with. they do have an unenviable job.

also, while I am here, I have to respond, with all respect, to Jackie Day: to my mind, tips are not *owed* to anyone, except maybe your restaurant server, but even that's dependent on a minimal job being done.
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Username: Noglider

Post Number: 1028
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 6:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm pretty sure Miss Manners doesn't consider garbage collectors to be domestic workers. I was talking about people who work IN your home. I don't know what she says about garbage workers. She has probably spoken about it, though. I'll see if I can find my book. She's written several.

I agree that these tips ought not to be necessary. But every time I ponder it, I notice I make more money than the other guy, so the money is more useful to him than me, and I end up being generous.
Tom Reingold
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