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marie
Citizen
Username: Marie
Post Number: 898
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 2:35 pm: | 
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In a recent memo to BOE members, it was reported that a CHS student was found to be in posession of a weapon and dr ugs at CHS. Also, that a CHS teacher was assaulted by a student.
What were the weapon and dru gs found? What actions were taken against these students? |
Callahan
Citizen
Username: Callahan
Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:06 am: |
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Marie,
Although weapons and drugs are fairly common lunchbox items with CHS students, I believe the memo may refer to a recent arrest of a 15 y/o student found in possession of some marijuana and a pocket knife, as reported by the News-Record a couple weeks ago. |
Copihue
Citizen
Username: Cop
Post Number: 141
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 4:33 am: |
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"Although weapons and drugs are fairly common lunchbox items with CHS students"
Care to describe what you mean by "weapons", "drugs" and "common"?
Pack your own chute.
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marie
Citizen
Username: Marie
Post Number: 901
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 7:10 am: |
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Callahan,
The weapon was a gun.
Perhaps it's time to install metal detectors. |
Duncan
Citizen
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1156
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 8:50 am: |
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Marie.. how did you find out it was a gun??
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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1-2many
Citizen
Username: Wbg69
Post Number: 640
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 12:01 pm: |
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marie: I have a child at the high school, so if there are facts to be shared here, please share them. we're all ears. also, please cite where you get the information.
without more, this just seems to be alarmist innuendo. |
marie
Citizen
Username: Marie
Post Number: 903
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 1:43 pm: |
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The information is from a memo from Dr Horoschak to BOE members.
I suggest calling BOE members and or Dr.Horoschak to confirm the information for yourself.
You should be alarmed. |
Duncan
Citizen
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1167
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 1:53 pm: |
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Marie you would understand our confusion when in your first post you say..
In a recent memo to BOE members, it was reported that a CHS student was found to be in posession of a weapon and dr ugs at CHS. Also, that a CHS teacher was assaulted by a student.
What were the weapon and dru gs found? What actions were taken against these students?
and then when given some information from Callahan you come back with..
Callahan,
The weapon was a gun.
Perhaps it's time to install metal detectors.
And now you say you know its a gun cause of the memo you site in your first post. It just seems odd that you would bait the thread or ask the question if you were already in possesion of the answer. As you state you are. Yes, if there are guns in the school we should be alarmed. But what prompts you to go about informing us in this particular way? Why not just say.. I have a memo from the school saying there was a gun there and a teacher was assaulted we need to help figure out how to stop the madness.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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marie
Citizen
Username: Marie
Post Number: 904
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 2:20 pm: |
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Duncan,
The information I posted last night was given to me via a phone call - while I completely trusted the source, I had not personally viewed the memo.
I did not want to post mis-information. I recieved a copy of the memo this morning.
But enough about me.
I ask the question again - What charges and or consequences will these students face?
Is it time to install metal detectors, or are we going to wait until someone gets shot, and or stabbed?
Why hasn't this information been shared with the CHS community? Why wasn't it reported in the News Record? If I had a child a CHS I would demand some information and some answers.
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1-2many
Citizen
Username: Wbg69
Post Number: 641
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 2:29 pm: |
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marie - thank you for sharing this information. if you can, please scan in the memo and post it. I don't think that metal detectors are needed from one incident, and probably like you I do support very strong punishment - expulsion? - for this violation. my feeling is, if there is a strong reaction to this level of offense, we can prevent anyone pursuing an escalated offense. conversely, if the reaction is NOT strong, there is no deterrent to doing this... and worse. |
Duncan
Citizen
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1170
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 2:42 pm: |
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I dare say the creep was arrested? No? If not then throw the book at him. Pillory him in the parking lot and let others throw tomatoes at him. Whatever it would take to expose the fact that if you do this YOU WILL PAY
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 163
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 3:29 pm: |
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Marie - "Why hasn't this information been shared with the CHS community? Why wasn't it reported in the News Record?"
Becuase that kind of publicity adversly effects the community and they won't be able to "sell" So. Orange/Maplewood.
According to a retired police officer I met a few years ago, back in the 70's they did a major drug bust at the high school and quietly took the offenders out the back door. He also said that the rescue squad routinely had to transport kids who had OD'd to the emergency room - also out the back door... these events never made the paper, no notes were sent home.. nada, nothing.
Do kids tell their parents? Probalby not, but in Columbia, like Hogwarts, a secret is someting everyone knows.
Where does the Teacher's Union stand? Why are they silent when lives are at stake? |
dave23
Citizen
Username: Dave23
Post Number: 104
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 3:54 pm: |
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People like to lament secretiveness as a conspiracy unique to M/SO and CHS. But have you ever known a school district that publicizes its problems? I went to a high school very much like Millburn’s (rich and white), and when the two star basketball players (one of whom was also the son of the Vice Principal) were busted for cocaine, it didn’t make the local paper, and the kids weren’t disciplined. (They both went on to play Division I-A ball, and one now coaches one of the elite college basketball programs.)
I also knew students who sold drugs and brought weapons to school. It was more or less addressed when the administration knew about it (as long as you weren't an athlete). But it wasn’t publicized in the papers or in notes to parents. And the test scores and property values stayed high (as did the students).
Do you think Millburn will soon be rolling out a PR campaign with the slogan, “Millburn: High Test Scores, Higher Students”?
Me neither.
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1151
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 4:02 pm: |
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The public's need and right to know is at odds with the reputation of the school district. I see this as a difficult debate.
Tom Reingold
There is nothing
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Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 2464
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 4:06 pm: |
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Columbia's student manual provides that, for a weapons offense, the police are to be notified, and the student suspended. In addition, there may be a hearing to extend the suspension, or to expel the student.
Since there was a memo to the BOE on the incident, hopefully that is exactly what is taking place at this time. |
SoOrLady
Citizen
Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 164
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 4:09 pm: |
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I was not suggesting that the NR do a front page story - rather offering Marie a reason that these events don't make the papers. That said, I believe that the administration of the high school has an obligation to inform their community (ie: Parents) when weapons are found and/or teachers are assulted. I also believe that in either case, expulsion and arrest is called for. |
marie
Citizen
Username: Marie
Post Number: 905
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 7:32 pm: |
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1-2many,
I have been asked not to post the memo in it's entirety as it does contain some information which should not be made public at this time.
However, I can tell you the memorandum is entitled ADC Memorandum - Superintendant's Update Nov 13. You can ask for a OPRA at the BOE and get a copy of the memo yourself.
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Callahan
Citizen
Username: Callahan
Post Number: 6
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 12:52 am: |
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Dear Copihue,
If the time of your posts is indicative of your work scehdule (4 AM !!!) you probably haven't spent much time at CHS as of late.
I suggest the following: Drive around the High School from around 2:45 to 4 PM. (You know, the route that realtors never take) And keep your car doors locked. Note the legions of police personnel in the area. Make your own observations, and draw your own conclusions.
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Duncan
Citizen
Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 1179
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 8:02 am: |
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Given a bit to hyperbole eh??
Legion: (n) the principal unit of the Roman army comprising 3000 to 6000 foot soldiers with cavalry.
Now come on Callahan I live up the hill from the school and I do pass back and forth both in the morning and in the afternoon and I have never, once in 7 years here seen a blinking horse.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
Wayne Gretzky
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