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Redsox
Citizen
Username: Redsox
Post Number: 372
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:17 am: | 
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so irvington is getting friday off for ramadan...
lest to offend anyone - my kid isn't allowed a thanksgiving party @ clinton school, instead it's called a harvest party.....
what the ef is going on.....
am i wrong- but is there a deliberate attempt to trash our culture, customs, & heritage......or am i just paranoid?
and what about the local thanksgiving day football game.... i must have missed it on the schedule.. |
Joan
Citizen
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 2224
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 11:10 am: |
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Redsox:
Ramadan extends far beyond one day. It seems far more likely that Irvington gave the kids tomorrow off because few teachers and administrators wanted to come into work the day after Thanksgiving. Furthermore, considering that celebrants of Ramadan are unable to eat Turkey or much of anything else during the day, the juxtaposition of Ramadan and the day after Thanksgiving seems strange.
Remember that our school districts are able to give the kids off whenever they wish as long as the minimum number of school days per year required by the State is met. Irvington just chose to give its students and teachers a long weekend. |
Diversity Man
Citizen
Username: Deadwhitemale
Post Number: 523
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:19 pm: |
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Forget Irvington, their best students attend CHS anyway.
Are you certain it was not just an idiotic teacher?
DWM |
greeneyes
Citizen
Username: Greeneyes
Post Number: 433
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 1:17 pm: |
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Redsox-
Irvington has a large number of Muslim students, thus the need to have time off in observance of their high holy days. I don't see anything more there. |
bobk
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 3937
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 1:56 pm: |
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For the record SOM schools are closed on Friday as well, or so Little K tells me. Hummmm
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Michael K. Mc Kell
Citizen
Username: Greenerose
Post Number: 116
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 2:08 pm: |
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Politically correct world.
10 Years ago no one knew what Ramadon was.
Michael K. Mc Kell
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curb
Citizen
Username: Curb
Post Number: 357
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 6:45 pm: |
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Ramadan ended on Monday or Tuesday. |
strawberry
Citizen
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 1480
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 7:28 pm: |
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Hakeem Olajuwon sucked during Ramadan.
"That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001."
--President George W. Bush
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Curious Onlooker
Citizen
Username: Curiousonlooker
Post Number: 18
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 9:29 pm: |
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Irvington has always (or at least as far back as I remember) had the day after Thanksgiving off. Having off for the end of Ramadan this year is a first. It will be interesting to see if that happens again next year... |
sac
Citizen
Username: Sac
Post Number: 798
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 10:49 pm: |
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Are there any school districts around here (or anywhere in the country for that matter) that DON'T have off the day after Thanksgiving? |
spw784
Citizen
Username: Spw784
Post Number: 410
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 11:30 pm: |
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I thought I had read that Irvington was off this past Tues/Wed for the end of Ramadan, as well as Thurs/Fri for Thanksgiving. Essentially, this gives them a 6 day weekend! I also thought I had read that Irvington (or was it Paterson?) eliminated the 3 Jewish holidays from their school calendar, because there were only a handful of Jewish teachers, and maybe half dozen Jewish students. It was more practical for the district to close for Ramadan - which had more students observing, than for Rosh Hashanah/Yom Kippur, which had very few students observing. |
gozerbrown
Citizen
Username: Gozerbrown
Post Number: 263
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 3:16 pm: |
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Their school calendar is online. They were closed on Tuesday for Ramadan and they were closed Wednesday on for Thanksgiving. |
Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 281
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 5:21 pm: |
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The religious preferences of Americans have changed in the past 10 years. The table below is from the American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS), published by CUNY at www.gc.cuny.edu/studies/aris_index.htm.
In response to a previous post, it's possible that ten years ago, fewer people knew about Ramadan because there were fewer Moslems in the United States. On the other hand, ignorance, no matter how profound, is no excuse for bigotry.
| | | Religion | 1990 Est.
Adult Pop. | 2001 Est.
Adult Pop. | %of U.S.Pop.
2000 | %Change
1990-2000 | | Christianity | 151,225,000 | 159,030,000 | 76.50% | 5% | | | Nonreligious/Secular | 13,116,000 | 27,539,000 | 13.20% | 110% | | | Judaism | 3,137,000 | 2,831,000 | 1.30% | -10% | | | Islam | 527,000 | 1,104,000 | 0.50% | 109% | | | Buddhism | 401,000 | 1,082,000 | 0.50% | 170% | | | Agnostic | 1,186,000 | 991,000 | 0.50% | -16% | | | Atheist | | 902,000, | 0.40% | | | | | Hinduism | 227,000, | 766,000, | 0.40%, | 237% | | | UnitarianUniversalist | 502,000, | 629,000, | 0.30%, | 25% | | | Wiccan/Pagan/Druid | | 307,000, | 0.10% | | | | Spiritualist | | 116,000 | | | | NativeAmericanReligion | 47,000 | 103,000 | | 119% | | | Baha'i | 28,000 | 84,000 | | 200% | | | NewAge | 20,000 | 68,000 | | 240% | | | Sikhism | 13,000 | 57,000 | | 338% | | | Scientology | 45,000 | 55,000 | | 22% | | | Humanist | 29,000, | 49,000 | | 69% | | | Deity(Deist) | 6,000 | 49,000 | | 717% | | | Taoist | 23,000 | 40,000 | | 74% | | | Eckankar | 18,000 | 26,000 | | 44% | | |
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1218
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 1, 2003 - 12:42 am: |
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What's the difference between atheist and nonreligious/secular? Hmm, maybe a secular person doesn't wonder if there is a god, and an atheist is sure there isn't one.
They should add a category for "militant agnostics". They're the folks who say, "I don't know, and NEITHER DO YOU!"
Seriously, Montagnard, thanks for that table! It shows that catering to Muslims is hardly PC. It's a matter of practicality.
Tom Reingold
There is nothing
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bklyntonj
Citizen
Username: Bklyntonj
Post Number: 161
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 1, 2003 - 8:26 am: |
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Or better yet Tom, what % of the Muslim population lives in the NY-metro area? |
Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
Citizen
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 1219
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, December 1, 2003 - 9:35 am: |
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bklyntonj, I don't know, but it has increased sharply in the past few years. Recognition of Muslim holidays seems highly appropriate. Also, I think everyone should remain mindful of it enough not to plan meetings where people are expected to eat during Ramadan.
Tom Reingold
There is nothing
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Montagnard
Citizen
Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 283
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 2, 2003 - 12:20 am: |
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The categories are from ARIS, but there's a lot more information on these issues at www.adherents.com.
People whose spriitual beliefs do not include a divine figure (non-religious, agnostic, atheist, etc.) are America's second largest spiritual group, after the Christians. |
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