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Nohero
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Post Number: 2465
Registered: 10-1999


Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 4:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the proud tradition of New Coke and Pets.com, the Republican National Committee is rolling out an advertising campaign in support of our nation's policy in Iraq:

http://www.rnc.org/Newsroom/Releases/nov03/IowaAds.htm

Samples of the on-screen text:

"Some are now attacking the President for attacking the terrorists."

"Some call for us to retreat, putting our national security in the hands of others."

"Call Congress Now. Tell them to support the President's policy of preemptive self-defense."

I haven't been able to get their link to work showing the ad, so I don't know if they also have a catchy theme song.
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JJC
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Username: Mercury

Post Number: 112
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 4:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes - and now, from the people who brought you "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"...
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strawberry
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Post Number: 1450
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 5:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JJC,

That's so cute. For your information the bombing mission to remove Hussein from power as we appraoched Baghdad was accomplished..The sign was accurate in that regard. Too bad the weak worthless left can't accept this fact.



"That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001."
--President George W. Bush
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tjohn
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Post Number: 1901
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 7:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The mission will be accomplished in Iraq when there is a stable government in Iraq and our military is no longer involved in matters of internal security.
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Cliff Harris
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Username: Cowboy

Post Number: 148
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Friday, November 21, 2003 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Democratic Party has placed its obsession over regaining power in Washington over and above the safety of the American people and the pursuit of the war on terror. Just meander through virtualy ant topic on Soapbox, yuppers you'll get swamped by their rhetoric.

Every single statement issued from a leftist Democratic presidential candidate is against our efforts in Afghanistan or Iraq. These statements vitalize those who are trying to kill us. Yes the terrorists are trying to kill us. Please get that concept deeply imbedded in your brain, if you have one.

If a horrifying terrorist attack does come to pass on American soil; if we do find ourselves sitting in front of the television one night watching officials cite an ever-increasing body count of innocent Americans from the latest terrorist attack on American soil don't any of you forget the role played by the party of appeasement. Don't forget the role played by Howard Dean, John Kerry, Dennis Kucinich and Weasely Clark. Don't forget the role played by the Democratic Party.
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tom
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Post Number: 1540
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

For your information the bombing mission to remove Hussein from power as we appraoched Baghdad was accomplished..The sign was accurate in that regard.



Oh, I thought it was about landing the plane successfully on the carrier.

Cliff, who are the leftist Democratic presidential candidates who are against our efforts in Afghanistan?

Do you mean Kucinich and Sharpton?

Anyone else?

If so, which statements specifically were against our efforts in Afghanistan.

Please be specific. To make it easier for you, leave out Iraq, just reply on the topic of Afghanistan.
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tjohn
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Post Number: 1906
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dearest Cliff,

I am unaware of any serious criticism of our involvement in Afghanistan except to say that we are not doing enough to get that country back on its feet at 20+ years of warfare.

The criticism of Iraq, of course, stems from the lack of convincing evidence to support the decision to invade.

One also has to ask if the billions being spent on Iraq could have been spent differently to buy us more domestic security.

The refusal to address these serious questions amounts to proof that patriotism is, indeed, the last refuge of the scoundrel.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Post Number: 299
Registered: 8-2003


Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For your consideration:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/22/international/22TERR.html

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tom
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Post Number: 1542
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 6:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cliff has apparently abandoned this thread, now that we've caught the obvious falsehood (opposition to Afghanistan).

But I'm sure he'll be back in a couple of weeks trying to make the same stupid point again, in a different way.
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sbenois
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Post Number: 10464
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Knock yourself out Tom. Kucinich is a nutjob.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A3453-2003Nov21?language=printer


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tom
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Post Number: 1545
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

s, s, s, ... you've gotta read between the lines. When I said

quote:

Do you mean Kucinich and Sharpton?

Anyone else?



your should read

quote:

Do you mean Kucinich and Sharpton?
But who cares what they say?
Anyone else who is a real candidate?


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sbenois
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Post Number: 10465
Registered: 10-2001


Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dearest Cliff Harris,

You see how this works? Tom is caught in his own game and he then turns around and tells me to read between the lines he's written.

That's just beautiful Tom. Please ask Paul Surovell if he thinks Dennis Kucinich is a "real candidate".




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tom
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Post Number: 1546
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, s, I should have called the Cliff's misdirection for what it was. The bait is his term, "leftist candidates." Well, OK, Kucinich is a leftist candidate. But why ask Paul? Ask Kucinich himself. The article you cite has him saying, "I'm going to start by exceeding expectations in Iowa and New Hampshire. I exceed expectations if I get one vote. Everybody will say, 'how did he get a vote.' "

But the point being, the leftist candidates are irrelevant. This isn't an election where Carol M-B or Al Sharpton are going to nail any planks onto the platform. And unlike '92 when Pat Buchanan got to deliver the keynote at the convention, these three are going to be far, far away.
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sbenois
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Post Number: 10466
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as I can tell, every candidate to the left of George W. Bush in 04 is irrelevant.


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tom
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Post Number: 1548
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Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

keep telling yourself that
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Cliff Harris
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Post Number: 149
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The focus by tjohn, tom and Dr. WOB is directed at my including Afghanistan. Fine, let me "make the same stupid point again, in a different way."

I'll abandon Afghanistan and focus soley upon Iraq, cause that is the area of most concern to all and that's where our soldiers are being attacked regularly.

Let me be clear ! Any statements issued from Democratic presidential candidates against our efforts in Iraq offer support the terrorists. These statements VITALIZE those who are trying to KILL us !

Yes the TERRORISTS ARE TRYING TO KILL US.

Please get that concept deeply imbedded in your brain, if you have one.

If a horrifying terrorist attack does come to pass on American soil; if we do find ourselves sitting in front of the television one night watching officials cite an ever-increasing body count of innocent Americans from the latest terrorist attack on American soil don't any of you forget the role played by the party of appeasement. Don't forget the role played by the Democratic Party. And don't forget the rhetoric and spin of MOL posters like tjohn, tom, etc...
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tjohn
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Post Number: 1908
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If somebody invaded us and some of our citizens were fighting back by whatever means, they would be heroes. When this happens in Iraq, I guess they are terrorists. In fact, a lot of Iraqis are happy that we removed Saddam Hussein AND want us out NOW.
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sbenois
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Post Number: 10469
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Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And if we pulled out now you'd be the first one crying about how we abandoned the Iraqis when they needed us.

It's all about your hatred for Bush and nothing else.


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Cliff Harris
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice call Sbenois, and right on the money!

While it's true that, "a lot of Iraqis are happy that we removed Saddam Hussein AND want us out NOW." The terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda want us out even more. They wish to replace Saddam and establish another oppressive government, one that they control.

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tom
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Post Number: 1549
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 3:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Obviously we can't pull out now. That doesn't mean that the fools who got us there shouldn't be accountable.

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