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strawberry
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Post Number: 1515
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Today the president will sign the Healthy Forests Restoration Act of 2003 - the first major forest management legislation in a quarter-century. The White House calls it "common sense legislation will help protect communities, save wildlife and restore forest health."
Mr. Bush announced his "Healthy Forest Initiative" in August 2002 while visiting Oregon communities hit by wildfires. The main idea is to thin overgrown and crowded forests that can produce devastating fires. Today's legislation streamlines the approval process for such projects. The administration estimates about 190 millions acres are at risk of severe fire."

"That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001."
--President George W. Bush
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Dave Ross
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Post Number: 5778
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this the legislation that calls trees "hazardous fuels"?
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llama
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Username: Llama

Post Number: 368
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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tom
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Post Number: 1602
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, thin them by removing the old-growth hardwood trees.
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themp
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Post Number: 309
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

U.S. Proposes Easing Rules on Emissions of Mercury
By JENNIFER 8. LEE


WASHINGTON, Dec. 2 — The Bush administration is proposing that mercury emissions from coal-burning power plants should not be regulated in the same way as some of the most toxic air pollutants, reversing a stance on air pollution control taken by the Clinton administration in 2000.

The change in planned regulations for mercury emissions from power plants is summarized in documents from the Environmental Protection Agency and is the first big policy decision by Michael O. Leavitt, who took over as the agency's administrator last month.

The agency is suggesting that mercury emissions be removed from the most stringent regulations of the Clean Air Act that have been used to limit the most toxic air pollutants. Among those are asbestos, chromium and lead, which have been known to cause cancers and neurological disorders.




Awesome! I love mercury! What a great leader!
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Kenney
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mercury was the son of Zeus and Maia. He was god of commerce, wrestling, and gymnastic exercises, thieving, and what required skill and dexterity.
Mercury was the messenger of Zeus, and wore a winged hat and winged shoes. He held a rod entwined with two serpents and wings, called the caduceus, and invented the lyre.




The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today.
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johnny
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Username: Johnny

Post Number: 789
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mercury does a body good! Oh wait, that's milk.
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Kibbegirl
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Our President is not a lover of nature or the environment in general. It's a ruse to get him something else he wants but we don't want to give him. If there were oil in our national forests, he'd drill there for sure.
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cjc
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Post Number: 511
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey -- Tom Daschle got this legislation for SD. Bush just extended it to the whole country. Now, Tom doesn't have anything against trees, does he?
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Dave Ross
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Post Number: 5783
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is South Dakota's forest.

sd
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lumpyhead
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Post Number: 551
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, he hates trees and all the beauty in nature. He told me so himself. Heck if your neighbor was leaking oil from that pipe, he'd have them taken away using that old Patriot Act and detain them indefinitely just to get his grubby hands on that oil for himself!! Oh and by the way, did you know he was dumb?
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Earlster
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Post Number: 82
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.wilderness.org/Library/Documents/McInnis-WaldenBillAnalysis.cfm

Just another one of Bush's 'deception by misnaming' stunts.

I'm sure if I look good enough I will find a provision that makes it mandatory to eliminate all wild strawberrys from national forests.
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strawberry
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Post Number: 1517
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Liberal goofball "Opposition to the measure ebbed as wildfires devastated parts of southern California this fall. The Senate passed the bill by voice vote on Nov. 21 less than an hour after the House approved it, 286-140.
The measure would authorize $760 million a year for thinning projects on 20 million acres of federal land, a $340 million increase. At least half of all money spent on those projects must be near homes and communities."

"That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001."
--President George W. Bush
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Kenney
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's easy to blame Bush and Clinton for failing to push for fuel efficient cars, more public transportation, and other environmentally friendly measures--but just like the stock market bubble, the real blames lies with all of us.

We own trucks with shiny beds, SUVS without car seats or any sign of backseat use, drive into the city rather than taking the train, etc. etc. etc.


But of course we like to bitch about environmental and mideast policy, as well as, the high price of gas at the pump and home.

we are a nation of squealing energy pigs.
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today.
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Dave Ross
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Post Number: 5784
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush's "Environmental Protection Agency" tried to create a new rule which would allow coal mining companies to fill streams, rivers and wetlands with industrial waste.

He's doing everything in his power to allow increased pollution nation-wide. Passing a law to fund tree-trimming does not make Bush an environmentalist.
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Kenney
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave's right--I caught Bush yesterday knocking over my garbage cans and laughing.

He was wearing a shirt that said "Trees Suck" on the front and "Garbage Rules" on the back
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today.
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lumpyhead
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Post Number: 552
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ever see all the giant SUV's in the Maplewood village on a daily basis? They must be gas-guzzlin oil loving Republicans from Millburn coming to Maplewood to shop with their ill-gotten gains.
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Dave Ross
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Post Number: 5785
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Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The only one with a worse record on the environment than Bush is Cheney:


quote:

1984: Cheney Was One of Only 9 Members to Oppose EPA Research and Development. Cheney was one of only nine members of the House to vote against the "Environmental Research, Development, and Demonstration Act of 1984."

1984-86: Cheney Repeatedly Opposed Reauthorizing "Superfund" Legislation. From 1984 - 1986 Cheney was repeatedly in the small minority opposing Reauthorization of "Superfund" legislation.

1984-85: Cheney Repeatedly Voted to Eliminate Citizens' Rights to Sue for Hazardous Waste Dumping Damages. In 1984 and 1985, Cheney repeatedly voted to eliminate citizens' rights to sue for hazardous waste dumping damages.

1986: Cheney Was One of Only 21 Members to Oppose Refunding "Safe Drinking Water Act." In 1985, Cheney was one of only 21 members of the House to vote against the conference report of the "Safe Drinking Water Amendments of 1985," which authorized appropriations to carry out the "Safe Drinking Water Act."

1985, 1987: Cheney Repeatedly Voted Against Clean Water Reauthorization. In 1985 and 1987 Cheney repeatedly voted against reauthorization of the Clean Water Act. In fact, in 1987 he was one of only 8 House members to vote against passage of the Clean Water Act Reauthorization.




As residents of a state with an above average cancer rate, you might want to think twice before your anonymous cheers for this administration's jihad against the environment continue.
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lumpyhead
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Post Number: 553
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 1:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geez, Cheney probably smokes too!
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strawberry
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Post Number: 1518
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 - 1:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!

We're going away. Pack your shit, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.

You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. You wanna know if the planet's all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.


(gc)

"That moment has directly affected my foreign policy. See, it changed the nature of the presidency. It changed the security arrangements of the United States of America. I vowed to the American people I would never forget the lessons of September the 11th, 2001."
--President George W. Bush

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