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Marvin Gardens
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Posted on Friday, December 5, 2003 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

buy a snowblower

Why was the snowman smiling???

Because he saw the snow blower coming!! Bwahahahaaa!!!

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Soda
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Posted on Friday, December 5, 2003 - 10:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wharfie: Until the cave sells, he's got me clearing the sidewalk and the 70-foot front path on his property every time it snows, plus I gotta do my own house as well, and no snowblower. Yeah, Boca sounds pretty good right about now...

But to be honest, I guess I'm testy 'cause I love sledding, and it just pisses me off every winter when some kid has a leg or an arm busted because they weren't warned by their parent to watch the traffic on the hill and got slammed by some inconsiderate or unthinking dolt riding an unsteerable snow vehicle.

...That, and my daughter's going out with a convict...

--Soda
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wharfrat
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Posted on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 6:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soda,

Which one?



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ros
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Posted on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 7:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2 hills on the Golf course (one off the 17th fairway, the other next to Pierson Road) had been spots for locals to sled for years, as long as most folks can remember, thanks to the Country Club.

This year fences were placed across those hills.
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ffof
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Posted on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 9:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

flood's Hill: Once at the bottom, walk back up on the SIDE of the hill so that people coming down have a clear path.

Once I ran up the center of the hill to save a little kid stranded there. Sledders were flying all around, then I looked up and dad and daughter on two sleds holding on to eachother were headed towards us. Another man ran over and scooped the kid up in his arms and did a forward roll to get out of the way. I unfortunately got pummeled and thought i had a broken thumb. THat hill is way dangereux. (But fun)
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Hank Zona
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Posted on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 9:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so is the Country Club being a sore loser over the celltower vote or has the concern for liability finally won out over their one clear act of being good neighbors?
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SoOrLady
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Posted on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 11:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you feel like traveling a bit, go to the big hill at the intersection of Northfield Ave & Cherry Lane - just up from the Turtle Back Zoo in West Orange. You get a great ride and IMO it's much safer than Flood's Hill.
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sullymw
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Posted on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 2:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, we went to golf course today and they actually put a fence across the hill. Talk about scrooges. We found another small hill not too far from the big one....SO THERE!!
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Soda
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Posted on Saturday, December 6, 2003 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wharfie: Too bad yer link didn't work, but no matter: He's outa commission for the forseeable future. Seems he and a couple of his drunken felon buddies got thrown outa Papillon late last night for trying to forcibly remove the tongue stud of a waitress who addressed them as "you guys". They decided to have some late-night fun on Flood's Hill, using the wheel covers from his Buick Electra as sleds. Needless to say, it was destructo-mania. He's in total body traction at St. Barnabas, and now even my daughter is finally convinced that he's a complete loser, so she's dumping him. I can only hope that she'll get back with that drummer she used to like...
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kevin
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Posted on Sunday, December 7, 2003 - 1:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Someone was recently telling me that years ago, sledding at Flood's Hill was much more organized. They had lifeguards, music, and served hot chocolate. They also put up ropes so that you didn't climb back up in the area designated for going down the hill, which was enforced by the guards. Any of you remember this?

Too bad they don't do this anymore, it would make the sledding safer -- though I think back then, most sleds were probably the metal railed flexible flyers which could inflict bodily harm. Today's sleds are typically made out of plastic and don't hurt as much when one runs into you or when you crash into one.

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Arnomation
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Posted on Sunday, December 7, 2003 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow!!! Flood Hill is awesome!!! But boy my legs got wobbly carrying my fifty-three pound three year old up the hill every time...whew!!!! He's a load.

It's the perfect hill. The one end is really nice and small for the little guys but the other end is nice and long for the bigger kids. I did see some spectacular wipe outs too. One kid took the legs right out from under this other kid and his legs went flying into the air like it was a highlight film. It's pretty crazy on that end of the hill.

Great fun though :-)
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Soda
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Posted on Sunday, December 7, 2003 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kevin: It was a one (or two?) year experiment in the late 80's, triggered by a serious accident on the hill, where a young girl was riding a non-steerable sled, and slammed into a tree. Was the incident caused by Village negligence? The court's answer was "yes", and there was a costly payout. The next winter, bales of hay, rope cordens, and "snow police" were in evidence on Flood's Hill. There were numerous complaints to Andy Brady about the loss of "freedom" and "fun", and now the bales of hay are all that remain. And the long-term safety upshot? Negligible. People still love the anarchic thrill of gravity-only control, and to this day they're practically lining up to become casualties. Or defendants.

My advice: Hop off ASAP after you reach the bottom, then keep yer eyes pointed uphill. Want hot cocoa? Bring a thermos.

-Soda
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mayhewdrive
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Posted on Sunday, December 7, 2003 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I say forget the Tony Smith Sculpture and SOPAC and build a tow rope or chair lift on Flood's Hill. That would finally be a worthwhile use of our tax dollars! :-)
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NCJanow(akaLibraryLady)
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mayhew, ANOTHER thing we agree on. Of course, you'd have to show your town photo pass or library card to get on the tow..but hey, since our tax dollars pay for it,it should be limited to taxpayers..Maybe we could sell a towpass to non residents to make some extra money.
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Soda
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 10:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, and then we could build a nice long heated cinderblock dugout at the bottom of the hill (to tastefully match the two on the major league field across the street), with cushioned seating and a snack bar with a FREE hot cocoa dispenser, so geezers like us can sit and rest up while watching the Currier&Ives scene on the hill above...And REGGAE MUSIC! And LIGHTS for night sledding! And a PONY RIDE! and FIREWORKS EVERY SATURDAY NIGHT! OBOY!
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 1:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where is Floods Hill?
Tom Reingold
There is nothing

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kevin
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 1:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

soda: I'm a pretty simple guy - I don't require the ropes, guards, hot cocoa, etc. I just sometimes like to have a run without having to worry about someone suing me if I hit and cause injury to them on the way down because they walk right up the middle of the hill.

I for one am glad that the majority of sleds are now made of plastic. Years ago, when everyone had the metal railed flexible flyers, my nose nearly got sliced off by one of them. Two of us were sledding down the hill and the person sledding next to me hit someone walking up the hill and they threw their sled right in my face. That kind of ruined the rest of my day since it was spent at the hospital getting stitches.

I guess that I will have to go sledding in the dark from now on. I did it last night and it was a lot of fun - just cold!



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jamie
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom,

Flood's Hill is on Ridgewood Road, a block past the duck pond & Middle school when heading from Maplewood to South Orange.

I'm tempted to head down there later - but my sled is in the top area of my garage, could be tricky to get to. And looks like you'll have to get over there soon - we're heading to the 50s in a couple days with rain.
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Tom Reingold the prissy-pants
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think we'll miss it for this snowfall, so I hope for more snow later. My current priority is to buy new boots for my daughters. One of them needs new sweaters, too.
Tom Reingold
There is nothing

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Soda
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kevin: Not to put too fine a point on it, but one of the main ideas behind those Flexible Flyers (and even current-day steerable plastic sleds, which ARE available, BTW) was that you could steer(!!!) -- and thus hopefully avoid -- those innocent, wiped-out, or just plain stupid people you'd encounter in the center of the hill.

Having had an injurious experience yourself is, it seems to me, no reason to abandon common sense; in fact, one would think it would make you an even more vocal advocate FOR sensible sledding.

I'm glad my kids aren't regular users of Flood's Hill these days. Selfish, inconsiderate attitudes like yours make the experience more dangerous than it has to be.

I'll bet you drive a large SUV. Peace out.

--Soda
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Yossarian
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 3:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could we please have just one thread anywhere on these boards that doesn't involve people flaming each other?

Soda, what did Kevin say/do that was so bad? Seems to me he's just decided to sled at night, which would make day sledding less crowded.



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kevin
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 9:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soda, selfish and inconsiderate? I think that you should re-read some of your previous posts, oh great oracle....

I am definitely pro sensible sledding.

Unless you had some special prototype flexible flyer, none of mine over the years would do more than a broad sweeping turn. When someone on a sled crosses your path and wipes out, there is little time for manuvering out of the way. Add people walking right up the middle of the hill and pick the person you will be slicing up. Much more damage is inflicted by a flexible flyer with razor sharp metal rails than a plastic sled.

Also, I'm sure the steering is very useful when an irresponsible parent lets a 4-10 year old ride one unsupervised down the steep part of the hill.

It's a wide hill - I think we can all share and enjoy it. I would still like to see a section that's 10-20 feet wide roped off for downhill only sledding. It doesn't have to be patrolled, but I'd bet that it would be more popular than the rest of the hill (at least for the older crowd).

Where did the comment about driving a large SUV come from? For your information, I don't. I also walk to Flood's Hill. You probably drive a station wagon. Wasn't it you who had to take the driving test 5 times before you passed (and are proud of the fact)?

Oh, one more thing, why do you hide behind the artwork of Leslie Thomas?

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Soda
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Posted on Monday, December 8, 2003 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A.) I define sensible sledding as riding a steerable vehicle under control, but that's just me... And
2.) Who's Leslie Thomas?

--Soda

BTW: Thanks for your comment on the BOT Email Address thread. And sorry about the SUV comment. To me they represent a frame of mind I'd rather characterize as "Look out, here I come!". If the shoe doesn't fit, please accept my humble aplology...
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kevin
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Posted on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - 10:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah soda....

I was refering to your smiley faced avatar. You probably know it as a Jersey shore icon - I'll bet you know that it is painted on the wall of the Palace in Asbury Park. Perhaps you might even know it's name, Tillie.

But if you are going to use it, you should at least know and give credit where credit is due as to who painted it on the wall of the Palace back in the early 50's. That was one Leslie "Worth" Thomas. May he rest in peace 3/14/03.

In reference to the other issue:

I think that we both agree about sensible sledding, but have slightly different views about it.

The art of sensible sledding should be instilled into youngsters by their parents. However, many of the children around here and their parents are probably new to the area and do not have a sledding background, so they do not know proper hill etiquette.

We have a chance to lead by example and be positive, effective role models.

I've got dibs on the night shift! (Look out, here I come)

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Soda
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Posted on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, Kevin. My avatar is one of a number of similar faces Avatar used in times past as a logo for George C. Tilyou's Steeplechase Park, in Coney Island. I'm a Long Islander, a long-time devotee of all things Coney, and I spent many, happy childhood hours (in the early 50's, actually) in and around the park, which was, of course, at The Beach, not The Shore. Poster Steeplechase ("The Funny Place") has a special nook in the hearts of thousands of ex-kids like me, and there's a sizeable group of us who'd like to see a similar amusement park built on the old Steeplechase site. Sign My avatar graces a button worn by hundreds of us, as a silent reminder of the innocent fun and excitement of those Coney days.

FWIW, I hope Asbury Park regains its old sparkle, too.

--Soda
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kevin
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Posted on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My appoligies, Soda. I did recall reading somewhere that there was a similar 'Tillie' in Coney Island. I am a New Jersey native myself and (wrongly) assumed that you were also.

Asbury Park's Tillie must be a cousin because he has a different hairdo and is a bit more dopey looking than Coney Island's "Tilyou". I guess that's what hanging out 'down the shore' will do to you.

palace

We can add Olympic Park and make this a small tribute to three formerly great amusement parks.

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kevin
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Posted on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NJ's Asbury Park Tillie was a knock-off <sob>

"Tillie is believed to be the last surviving original in a line of amusement park images with direct linage to Steeplechase Park at Coney Island. Tillie's ancestry dates to 1897 when an image known as the Steeplechase face first appeared at Coney Island. The original of this image was destroyed by the fire of July 28, 1907; as the Park was rebuilt, it was repaced by an image similar in most aspects to the original. The historian Michael P. Onorato, whose father ran Steeplechase Park from 1928 until the rides were sold off in 1965-66, says: "The Steeplechase face changed many times over the years and sometimes there were several faces found throughout the Park. The face became standardized in the late 1940s when all former faces were removed from around the park and hand-stamps with the several faces were destroyed or disappeared." The final version, glaring out from the glass facade of Steeplechase Park, was used as a symbol on rides, on tickets and as an advertising logo until the 1964 closure and ultimate demolition of Steeplechase Park.

The Asbury Park image, dating to 1956, is related to the Steeplechase face by stylistic similarities, but much more. The name "Tillie" is shorthand for Tilyou, the family name of the father of Coney Island's amusement park, George Cornelius Tilyou. Furthermore, there are strong familial resemblances between Tillie and the photographs of George C. Tilyou and his brother, Edward J. Tilyou, who Onorato believes was the model for the final version of the Steeplechase Image. Almost certainly, the designer of Tillie intended it to be a sincere form of Flattery, taking the design as far as possible without upsetting the Tilyous (who were known to threaten legal actions against copycats.)"
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Ukealalio
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Posted on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - 3:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soda-I'm with you 100%. My Grandma used to take me to the Steeplechase (early 60's before it closed) and it was the best. The Steeplechase ride (Kinda like a roller coaster with hobby horses instead of cars, went both inside and out-if I remember correctly) was terrific as were the huge slides. I'm not sure but I think the parachute jump technically belonged to the Steeplechase, is this correct?.

A little trivia-My mom's uncle was one of the partners in the Wonder Wheel, which is still in C.I.

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Soda
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Posted on Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correctamundo, Ukie. The Parachute Jump (shown here as site of an environmental protest a few years ago)

was indeed part of Steeplechase Park. And the Steeplechase ride itself
riders
did run both outside and inside.

--Soda

BTW: Were those giant slides the absolute best, or what?! And, of course, there was...
Nathan's
NATHAN'S!
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Ukealalio
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Soda, great pictures!. Unfortunately all thats left are the Parachute Jump (not working-will they ever operate this thing again?) and we still have Nathans.

A couple of years ago I took my son and some friends to the Seaquarium,the amusement area and the obligatory lunch at Nathans. While we were dining outside of Nathans a transvestite motorcylcle group parked and came in for some food. I had a heck of a time trying to explain to a group of 6 year olds, what they just saw. I don't think I'll forget that anytime soon.
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Chris Dickson
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have any of y'all been to a Brookyln Cyclones game yet? Great ballpark right down the street from Nathan's!


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Soda
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 12:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, but I do support Da Bears!

--Soda
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wharfrat
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Uke-

Take your kids to Coney, for another experience they will never forget-The Mermaid Festival!
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Marvin Gardens
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Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 7:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

but try not to step on any of them Coney Island Ringfish that wash up on the beach...

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