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jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 424
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 4:16 pm: |     |
I have to admit I always choke up during West Side Story when they start singing "A Place for Us." Great film, great songs. |
emmie
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Username: Emmie
Post Number: 373
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 6:45 pm: | |
My Dog Skippy made me cry, also the end of Cast Away when Tom Hanks goes to see his old fiance who married the dentist. Also The Way We Were, the list could go on and on. |
Mergele
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Username: Mergele
Post Number: 195
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 7:07 pm: | |
Mr. Holland's Opus. |
Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt
Post Number: 43
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 7:36 pm: | |
JESUS CHRIST! what a bunch of crybabies!!!
Only kidding.
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greenetree
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Username: Greenetree
Post Number: 3435
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 7:53 pm: | |
My list would be longer, except that I won't watch any movies featuring animals. One always dies, is hurt, etc. I learned my lesson on Charlotte's Web. |
sullymw
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Username: Sullymw
Post Number: 412
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 8:30 am: | |
Last scene of Rudy |
tulip
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Username: Braveheart
Post Number: 1764
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 9:15 am: | |
jkatz: I'm with you on West Side Story, but I cried at the end of Les Miserables (the musical), and I always cry when I hear "My Boy Bill" and "When You Walk Through a Storm" from Carousel, which (play) is the saddest story ever. That always gets me.
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jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 426
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 10:57 am: | |
I've never seen Bambi and even at my advanced age I wouldn't watch it. And no way is my two-year-old going to see it. Ever, if I can help it.
We already made the mistake of showing her "Finding Nemo," which opens with a barracuda attack. As soon as it ended, she turned to me and asked, "Where is the mommy?" I should have turned it off right then. What is it with the Disney people?? Every "kids' film" of theirs seems to center around kids being torn from one or both parents, or the parents being up to no good. |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1143
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 11:06 am: | |
jj, I just took the first "Babar" book out of the library for my 3 year old. It had so many things I had to skip over, a hunter killing mom, a king eating a poisonous mushroom and dying. It bascially had no redeemable value, yet I remember loving Babar as a child. Go figure. |
Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt
Post Number: 44
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 11:06 am: | |
Yeah, jj, I took my daughter a few years ago to see "The Tigger Movie" because she was into the whole Pooh scene, man, and it was the most depressing thing I'd ever seen. Tigger is unhappy because he has no family and he spends the entire movie looking for his family and never finds it. At the end, Pooh and Eyeore say "that's alright, you have no one, we'll be your family," clearly an unhappy ending. Sheesh, what a bringdown.
Cry? No,I didn't cry. I was angry that this depressing piece of kiddie noir was foisted on an unsuspecting public. |
Dave
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Username: Dave
Post Number: 4592
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 12:00 pm: | |
It's the influence of (and often direct borrowing from) the Brothers Grimm. |
mjc
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Username: Mjc
Post Number: 33
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 2:58 pm: | |
(thread drift)
Some random thoughts about sadness and separation in kid movies and stories...
As Dave says, it's the Bros. Grimm and the like. But then, how can a kid have a real, independent adventure without being emancipated from the parents somehow? In the fairy tales, sometimes the protagonist goes out on the road "to seek his fortune" instead of the parent dying, but by hook or by crook the parents have to be out of the picture for a certain type of story.
Bambi - personally, as a kid I was terrified by the fire, and I'm not sure the mom's death even registered. Certainly my sons at 3 and 4 had NO CLUE the mom had died, and I wasn't about to tell them. They did a lot of fantasy play about being adult deer and taking care of fawns, which was very sweet to see. I think they said they had 30 fawns. So maybe they focused on the father, or the "village" of other characters, since the mother was literally out of the picture. In any case, what they took away from the movie at the time was ideas about growing up and taking care.
Babar - we read the books, lightly edited. (Loved the TV version because the characters all spoke politely and in full sentences, and so did my kids for a while.) Even though some nightmarish things are going on in the books, the characters who are able are taking good care of each other, and that's reassuring, maybe even more reassuring than a story where nothing bad happens.
Greenetree - me too about the animal movies, except for some reason Never Cry Wolf, which I love. |
mjc
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Username: Mjc
Post Number: 34
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 3:11 pm: | |
Just one more comment about stories and movies for kids (at the risk of being obvious).
It's really tough to know what stories/movies will work for what kid at what age. Incidents that terrify or mystify a 2-3-4 yo can be exciting and challenging to a 5-6-7, and you don't always know how it will go till after the fact. An ongoing thing about parenthood, figuring things out too late... |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1146
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 3:14 pm: | |
mjc, I do think about how we watched all this stuff as kids and it didn't hurt us (as far as I can tell...). I think I probably shield my kids for myself, because I'm not ready for the "why did the mommy die" type questions. Of course my 3 year old daughter is really into Cinderella right now and I haven't had the "men don't solve every problem" discussion yet either. 
I might try one of the other Babars but this one (I think it was the first in the series) was about buying nice clothes, an "old lady" sugar mommy, marrying your cousin, and death. Wasn't very fond of it. Never saw the tv version though. Bizarre because I remember it so fondly. |
jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 427
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 3:25 pm: | |
Oh no, my wife borrowed the Tigger movie from the library just yesterday! 
We borrowed Piglet's Big Movie a few days ago, which our daughter loved. My wife started telling her how it was thematically similar to the Ringo "This Boy" sequence in A Hard Day's Night, LOL. I don't think our two-year-old got the reference, but she will.  |
Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt
Post Number: 47
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 3:30 pm: | |
Well, jj, let us know what you think of Tigger's dark movie and what kind of deep therapy and meds you think he should be on. |
jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 429
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 3:51 pm: | |
With luck it will be a matinee performance and I'll get home after it's ended. |
mjc
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Username: Mjc
Post Number: 36
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 4:07 pm: | |
Wendyn - give your 3 yo princess a hug from me, and right, save "the truth about guys" (not to mention death) for later. For now, Cinderella can be a person who has tough circumstances but has some friends who help out (though they're birds, they're great tailors) and is cheerful and hardworking...
(PS, please don't take the hug part wrong. I think the thing is that I'm "biologically ready" to be a grandma, but my guys are only 17 and 19, so it will be a long wait.)
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SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1547
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 4:28 pm: | |
Wendyn -"I haven't had the "men don't solve every problem" discussion yet either."
You may not have to - a few years ago a friend of mine took her daughter to see Snow White.. as they were leaving the theater, her daughter remarked at the rudeness of the dwarves - they never thanked Snow for her housekeeping skills. |
Nyybone
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Username: Nyybone
Post Number: 54
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 4:37 pm: | |
Hidalgo. |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 2073
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 7:07 pm: | |
The Bear |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1150
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - 8:29 am: | |
Thanks for the Cinderella support gals. And I love the Snow White comment!
Amory Blaine: Just bought a bunch of "classic" Christmas DVDs from Amazon, and one of them has Nestor on it. I think it is "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" or "Year Without a Santa Claus". Not sure which. I don't remember the story very well but I'm glad you reminded me how sad it is so I can avoid having my kids watch it. |
Amory Blaine
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Username: Fscott74
Post Number: 22
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - 9:47 am: | |
Thread drift, but I must have missed something with Cinderella. Wasn't she helped by a fairy godmother and some mice? "The truth about guys"? I didn't realize there was a standard talk for daughters involved with Disney movies. I suppose Snow White, Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella aren't prime examples of modern women but they're cartoons. From the '50's. I'm not trying to argue, but I'm just surprised. Have ask my sister if my mom spoke to her while I was busy trying to whistle like a dwarf.
Wendyn - A Year without Santa is GREAT. I can hear the trombones sliding now, "I'm Mr. Green Christmas, I'm mister sun..."
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mjc
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Username: Mjc
Post Number: 49
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - 10:09 am: | |
Amory, my apologies for the phrase "truth about guys". It was a lazy paraphrase of Wendyn's "men don't solve every problem" and was meant as an equivalent to that indisputable statement, not as a slur. My bad. And of course you're right about the fairy godmother and the mice; I'm just being girly about the Disney scene where the birds (and mice) help Cinderella dress up.
As for having a talk with daughters about the early Disney heroines, I had a a few words with my sons, too. I LOVE the fairy tales, even the Disney versions, but wanted to put in my 2 cents worth about the courage and initiative of the girls as well as the princes.
Happy times -
MC |
Amory Blaine
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Username: Fscott74
Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 7, 2004 - 10:25 am: | |
Hi MC, no need for apologies. I hadn't taken offense and certainly wasn't trying to question anyone's kid-raising abilities. I was really just curious to see if I had missing something.
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millie amoresano
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Username: Millieamoresano
Post Number: 148
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:20 am: | |
Does anybody remember the movie Something for Joey? It was a made for TV movie in 1977.For me that was real tear jerker. |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 2112
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:24 am: | |
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SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1588
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 10:28 am: | |
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner - Spencer Tracy's last soliliquy... brings tears to my eyes every time. The fact that it's been remade in to a comedy "Guess Who" starring Bernie Mac in the Spencer Tracy role and Astin Kucher in Sidney Poitier's role really makes me weep! |
Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers
Post Number: 3627
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 11:10 am: | |
AMEN SoOrLady. The remake idea disgusts me and the fact that Spencer Tracy never got to see GWCTD is one of the sadder ironies in the business. He gives one of the most understated, deeply affecting performances ever. |
Brett Weir
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Username: Brett_weir
Post Number: 476
Registered: 4-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 1:48 pm: | |
The Deerhunter. |
Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt
Post Number: 87
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 4:52 pm: | |
Oh, man, yes, The Deerhunter. What a great, great (and heartbreaking) movie. |
RR
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Username: Rogers4317
Post Number: 44
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 11:13 am: | |
bridges of madison county
west side story and carousel |
kmk
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Username: Kmk
Post Number: 339
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 2:21 pm: | |
Zefferelli's Romeo and Juliet (I missed 2 days of school I was so sad)
It's a Beautiful Life
Some show about a sad homeless, mute clown that lived under a bridge? From the early 70's, live action on TV.....Italian name like Beppo?
After Romeo& Juliet (1975?) I've been avoiding possible "downers."
As it happens...I've discovered that I am close to bursting into sobs when a marching band goes by! There is something about the anticipation, the deafening noise and some weird melancholy all mixed together. |
mjc
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Username: Mjc
Post Number: 93
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 3:06 pm: | |
(drift)
kmk -
Marching bands every time! So glad to know I'm not alone! (we're probably safe till Memorial Day, right?) |
Soulful Mr T
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Username: Howardt
Post Number: 88
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 3:55 pm: | |
Many years ago (1979!) I saw a movie called "The Onion Field" with a very young James Woods, made from a Joseph Wambaugh novel. It was a pretty good movie as I recall, not a classic in any way. At the end of the movie, a very young Ted Danson plays bagpipes at a policeman's funeral. Ever since then, for 25 years, the sound of bagpipes makes me very sad. Go figure. |
kmk
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Username: Kmk
Post Number: 341
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 3:55 pm: | |
mjc-
I would love to hear some psych major's view of this very odd reaction we have! I have absolutely no idea where the emotion comes from - unlike movies where there are circumstances and situations that take you to that cry-baby state of mind. |
Soda
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Username: Soda
Post Number: 2122
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 11:13 pm: | |
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Scott
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Username: Selnychef
Post Number: 41
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 9:00 pm: | |
I think I checked every post, but did not see Saving Private Ryan listed. I remember when my wife and I saw in at a theatre on the East Side. No one moved for at least five minutes after the show. |
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