Author |
Message |
   
Face
Citizen Username: Face
Post Number: 432 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 7:16 pm: |
|
Will Dems soon eat more crow now that additional information is coming out about the U.N.'s "Oil for Food Program"? Remember their candidate, John F-ing Kerry, and how he felt it prudent and necessary to not only meet with U.N.leaders, but seek their approval before doing practically anything? Seems the U.N. wasn't all that good ol JFK had in mind. Do any of you still wonder why France, Russia and the U.N didn't support the coalition invading Iraq and getting rid of Sadaam? How long before Kofi goes bye-bye? |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2745 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 8:00 pm: |
|
I can think of a number of reasons why France, Russia, et al did not support our invasion of Iraq. U.N. corruption is not among those reasons. Given the issues at stake, $20B is petty cash. |
   
Maple Man
Citizen Username: Mapleman
Post Number: 458 Registered: 6-2004

| Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 8:22 pm: |
|
The Canadians still seem pretty peeved at the U.S. over the invasion. I wonder what their hidden agenda is? |
   
Montagnard
Citizen Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1328 Registered: 6-2003

| Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 9:00 pm: |
|
Now we have the "Oil for Lives" program from George W.M.D. Bush and the Halliburton Company. Not everyone sees this as an improvement. |
   
notehead
Citizen Username: Notehead
Post Number: 1752 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 9:20 pm: |
|
How can you find Dem culpability in that scandal?! Americans don't appear to have been the guys taking the money. |
   
Nohero
Citizen Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4150 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 10:20 pm: |
|
The Pope wasn't too crazy about the Iraq invasion. I guess Face is accusing the Pope of being on Saddam's payroll, also. Nice going, Face. |
   
Thenewguy
Citizen Username: Thenewguy
Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2004
| Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 10:24 pm: |
|
Alledged/actual corruption at the U.N. has nothing to do with the election. |
   
Brainiac
Citizen Username: Rhoff999
Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 4:32 am: |
|
The U.N. is corrupt , plain and simple. Don't mix that with the failure of the Dems to win the election or to lose more seats in congress and senate. |
   
cjc
Citizen Username: Cjc
Post Number: 2854 Registered: 8-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 11:00 am: |
|
Agreed. However, politically speaking, as Democrats don't need evidence to call for someone's head but merely serious charges, they are noticeably quiet about Kofi. And since they hold the UN in such high regard (depending on the election cycle, because they didn't when Clinton wanted to move in the Balkans. And Rwanda? Nuf said), you'd think they'd be leading the charge to get to the bottom of this..... except they aren't..... because.....Democrats are and can be successfully tied to the UN and all it is. Will it cost them seats? Probably not in and of itself. |
   
Maple Man
Citizen Username: Mapleman
Post Number: 460 Registered: 6-2004

| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 11:14 am: |
|
because only Democratic politicians are hypocrites. another fact I've learned on MOL. |
   
bobk
Supporter Username: Bobk
Post Number: 6871 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 11:16 am: |
|
Some of the Fox News reports are interesting. They have interviewed a number of French deputies on the subject of Chirac's possible involvement. However, they never say that these legislators are from the Socialist Party. LOL
|
   
mtierney
Citizen Username: Mtierney
Post Number: 667 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 12:02 pm: |
|
There are a number of indictments pending against Chirac, waiting for when he leaves office. Can't indict a sitting prez in France. I would bet there isn't much of a chance the French will unseat him. France is a Ukraine waiting to happen IMHO. Just waiting for the right trigger point. Don't expect the UN scandal is it. The growing Muslim population might be, however, down the road. |
   
Earlster
Citizen Username: Earlster
Post Number: 741 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 2:10 pm: |
|
quote:France is a Ukraine waiting to happen IMHO.
No way. |
   
Montagnard
Citizen Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1332 Registered: 6-2003

| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 2:30 pm: |
|
It's GOPthink gone wild. We'll be welcomed with flowers for sure, just like in '44. |
   
Straw's world
Citizen Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4054 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 2:45 pm: |
|
I'd be curious to hear what John Kerry has to say about this. Afterall, he pretty much ran as the UN'S choice for President. |
   
Rastro
Citizen Username: Rastro
Post Number: 467 Registered: 5-2004

| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 2:51 pm: |
|
He did? I must have missed that endorsement. But I'm sure he would say something along the lines of what Bush said. Nothing. Or as close to nothing as possible. What could he say until a full investigation is performed? |
   
Chris Prenovost
Citizen Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 138 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 3:02 pm: |
|
A few basic facts, that I hope most will agree on: 1) The U.N. is an utterly corrupt organization that represents a host of military dictatorships around the world. Freedom is not on their agenda. 2) The American people were lied to by the administration about Saddam's WMD's and his links to Al-Queda to justify the war. 3) Notwithstanding the above, getting rid of him was probably a good thing. 4) Our occupation of Iraq has been a spectacular failure, and seems to be getting worse. 5) Two wrongs do not make a right. |
   
Earlster
Citizen Username: Earlster
Post Number: 743 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 3:28 pm: |
|
Chris - 1) The U.N. surely has it's flaws, and there is corruption, but it is not utterly corrupt. And it sure doesn't represent a host of military dictatorships. I'm all for reform of the U.N., but your comment is puring the baby out with the bath water. 3) Saddam gone, good. But not even close to, worth the cost in human life and political unstability that it caused. I agree with the rest. |
   
Chris Prenovost
Citizen Username: Chris_prenovost
Post Number: 140 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 4:27 pm: |
|
Earlster, we need a world body, and I am not advocating throwing out the U N. But we have got to do better. The world body seems to be very forgiving of military dictatorships (e.g. Iraq, Iran, practically every country in Africa, Mainland China, ect.) but unduly harsh on democracies (the U.S. and Israel). The U N made a massive effort against apartheid, but does precious little about nuclear proliferation unless pushed to do so by the U.S. And the number of genocides (Rwanda, Bosnia, and currently Sudan) that take place with nary a whisper out of the august body on the East River is depressing. |
   
tjohn
Citizen Username: Tjohn
Post Number: 2746 Registered: 12-2001

| Posted on Friday, December 3, 2004 - 6:21 pm: |
|
Corruption is a never-ending cancer of all societies. Some have it worse than others, but all have it. Certainly, the current U.N. scandal should be properly investigated and heads should roll. However, some people carry on about U.N. corruption as if such things never happened here in Holy America. It seems to me that the money involved some of our better corruption cases dwarfs the oil-for-food scandal. Teapot Dome, Savings & Loan, Enron, Tammany Hall, usw. The list is endless. |