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themp
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Username: Themp

Post Number: 1275
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2004 - 9:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www4.fosters.com/December_2004/12.13.04/news/ap_nh1213f.asp
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Ukealalio
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Post Number: 1564
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The beginning of Rovegate. If this starts snowballing, the gloating from the left will be pretty sweet (as long of couse, as we get that numbskull outta the White House).
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Face
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Post Number: 457
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I suspect thet you two and others of your ilk will spend the next few years drooling at every opportunity to find fault with anything Bush.

Too bad, your party needs your help to restructure itself. But go right ahead and waste time trying to find some way to put bush or his Administration in a bad light. How truly American of you.

Not American, rather it's just Democrats getting together to , whine and moan .. and to try to create negative news for the Bush Administration.

Which is more important, your party or your country?
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Dave
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Post Number: 4674
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Republican officials committing crimes and reducing democracy here in the US while soldiers are dying for it overseas should be let go.

(wait, that doesn't exactly sound American)
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Robert Livingston
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Post Number: 583
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup, sounds about right. The only way Bush and the republicans win is by cheating. It's too bad for them they're too stupid to not get caught.
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mrosner
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Post Number: 1611
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I only wish the Republicans had followed the advice of Face during the Clinton years.
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Ukealalio
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Username: Ukealalio

Post Number: 1567
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Face-That was a truly ignorant and unpatriotic post. A Democratic President gets tortured for a consensual sex act but let a Democrat crticize a Republican Presidents administration (and one that is imploding with scandals, lies, arrogance and general incompetence-and thats even before he starts his 2nd or should I say 1st real term) and your labelled un-American. How base of you.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro

Post Number: 492
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Democrats to a Republican President:

D: You lied about the war.
R: I did not.
D: Here's the proof.
R: We're doing hard work here, and you're being unpatriotic, questioning your President in times of war. Why do you hate your country?

Republicans to a Democratic President:

R: Did you have sex with her?
D: No.
R: Are you sure?
DL Well, maybe.
R: Here's the proof. And the real problem is that you lied to us.
D: OK, I did. But it was no big deal. It's not like I'm a role model.

They're politicians, folks. They lie. As much as it's gotten worse in the past 30 years, it's always been the case. There's a difference between being a cynic and being a realist. Except in politics.
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themp
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Post Number: 1276
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

" I suspect thet you two and others of your ilk will spend the next few years drooling at every opportunity to find fault with anything Bush. "

All I did was link to an article. It is an objective fact that this guy was indicted. I didn't make it up. It is an interesting fact that he was involved in the Bush campaign. You should lift your blnkers and look around every now and then - there's a whole world out there. I think everyone will agree that election tampering like this can't go uninvestigated.

If it pains you to acquaint yourself with disappointing facts about your party, maybe you should re-examine your level of loyalty. Blind fanaticism is foolish for anyone of any party.

Or, perhaps you should do as Bush does and avoid news outlets. Have a conservative friend give you peppy updates.

I don't have an ilk, anyway.

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Duncan
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Username: Duncanrogers

Post Number: 3634
Registered: 12-2001


Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 2:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Face you were smiling at the irony when you typed this right?

"Too bad, your party needs your help to restructure itself. But go right ahead and waste time trying to find some way to put bush or his Administration in a bad light. How truly American of you."

I mean what do you call what Ken Starr was doing all that time??

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cjc
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Post Number: 2900
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 3:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The guy is an idiot. Tampering with a state he didn't have a chance with, whereas a smart democrat would have pulled that stuff in a state that was winnable -- like slashing tires of GOP campaign workers in WI this year. Now THAT's the way to do it.
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themp
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Post Number: 1282
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 4:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"like slashing tires of GOP campaign workers in WI this year. Now THAT's the way to do it." You guys are unbelievable. That's the way to do what? By whom}?
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extuscan
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Post Number: 387
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 8:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"The beginning of Rovegate. If this starts snowballing, the gloating from the left will be pretty sweet (as long of couse, as we get that numbskull outta the White House)."

I'm completely missing any mention of Rove in this article. What are you talking about?

I live in New Hampshire 8 months of the year and receive Fosters Daily Democrat every afternoon. (Yeah, it comes out around 2!) There is nothing "democrat" about this paper... its red state all the way. If you think this article is damaging to Bush, you would be reading it in the Concord Monitor, not the Daily Democrat. This guy has been completely disowned and dumped by the republicans. They don't want to have anything to do with him. Nobody is publically defending him. Bush dumped his the second these allegations came up almost a year ago. This is nothing.

John
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Innisowen
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Post Number: 314
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"You go to war with the Army you have, not the army you might want to have..." Rummy might well have said, "You run the country with the president you have, not the one you might want to have..." Except that the president we have is busy running the country into the ground from a fiscal point of view. Just wait until the Japanese, the Germans and those pesky French begin to get tired of funding the debt spiral that this administration has us in... we'll really be in great shape then.
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Ukealalio
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Username: Ukealalio

Post Number: 1574
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 1:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was no mention of Rove in the article. Wonder why I even mentioned it. Sometimes I surprise myself.
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themp
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Username: Themp

Post Number: 1284
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

" Bush dumped his ••• the second these allegations came up almost a year ago. This is nothing."

He resigned in October. How's that a year ago?


From talkingpointsmemo.com:

Tobin was named by the two men who've pled guilty in the case as part of their plea agreements. The Bush campaign has known for months of Tobin's involvement in this case. The only reason he resigned (in Oct) is that this information was finally pried free from court documents. Why did they keep him in such a senior post if they knew of his role in such serious wrongdoing?

At the time the incident happened Tobin was the Northeast political director for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. This was under Sen. Bill Frist's tenure as chairman. Did anyone else at the NRSC know about this at the time?


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