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     Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 542 Registered: 12-2003 |
I'm with Straw. Give me unneccessary war over consensual sex any day! I also hereby commend Mr. Berry for his bold pledge to never vote for Bill Clinton for President again. That took guts. | ||
| bets Citizen Username: Bets Post Number: 919 Registered: 6-2001  |
Now we're stuck with this:  | ||
| Guy Citizen Username: Vandalay Post Number: 412 Registered: 8-2004 |
You are right Madden, the War in Bosnia was unnecessary. | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 543 Registered: 12-2003 |
Guy-- Comparing Bosnia to Iraq is ridiculous. Every war = every other war? | ||
| Guy Citizen Username: Vandalay Post Number: 413 Registered: 8-2004 |
You are right again Madden, Saddam was much more of a threat to the US than Slobo was. | ||
| Earlster Citizen Username: Earlster Post Number: 756 Registered: 8-2003  |
Exactly, the Bosnia war was about genocide, the Iraq war is about WMD. Turns out there are no WMD in Iraq, but there was real genocide in Bosnia. Guy your comparison is just .... you know what. | ||
| Pizzaz Citizen Username: Pizzaz Post Number: 1305 Registered: 11-2001  |
NO genocide in Iraq - who's kidding who? As far as the pictures above, they're both clever and amusing. The Clinton one made me laugh. | ||
| Guy Citizen Username: Vandalay Post Number: 414 Registered: 8-2004 |
Both operations were noble efforts that removed brutal dictators from power. Speaking of genocide exactly what were in all those mass graves in Iraq? If you want to ask which country posed the biggest threat to the US , then Iraq wins by a long shot. | ||
| Robert Livingston Citizen Username: Rob_livingston Post Number: 535 Registered: 7-2004 |
How is Bush any better to the population of Iraq than Saddam was? Still mass killings everyday. Still torturing prisoners in the same prison. Still no utilities. Still they hate us. | ||
| Guy Citizen Username: Vandalay Post Number: 415 Registered: 8-2004 |
Robert perhaps you should read some good news from Iraq. http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005986 | ||
| Madden 11 Citizen Username: Madden_11 Post Number: 544 Registered: 12-2003 |
If you want to ask which country posed the biggest threat to the US, then Iraq wins by a long shot. I don't want to ask that, because it's not a valid point. Those wars had totally different justifications. The rationale for going into Bosnia was not to protect America, it was to stop genocide, which we did. The rationale for going into Iraq was (depending on what day you ask the Bush administration) weapons of mass destruction, which there were none. The Iraq war was a wrong move that has cost us dearly...there just can't be any serious questioning of that. Comparing it to Bosnia is apples and oranges. Being in favor of one war means you have to be in favor of every war? What a childish way of thinking... Also, congratulations on locating Iraq hawks on the WSJ editorial page. I'm going to go comb MichaelMoore.com to see if I can find any Bush-bashing. | ||
| themp Citizen Username: Themp Post Number: 1230 Registered: 12-2001 |
Good news from Iraq? In that poorly sourced item? Good night! You must be crazy. Items like that have been running for two years, and they always say the exact same things - schools are open, hospitals have electricity, etc. Hawks just keep moving the goal posts and ignoring substantial problems. Do you think any elections held in the next 6 weeks are going to solve our problems? We are in it for the long haul. I only hope Iraq doesn't claim more American lives that 9/11. | ||
| tjohn Citizen Username: Tjohn Post Number: 2758 Registered: 12-2001  |
The good news and the bad news from Iraq doesn't matter. What is the important news? The successful campaign of intimidation of ordinary Iraqis is important news. It has a direct bearing on the success of the January elections and on our ability to hand security over to the Iraqis. We aren't even close to being able to do that. | ||
| notehead Citizen Username: Notehead Post Number: 1770 Registered: 5-2001  |
The pomp and bullsh*t that will emanate from televisions all over the U.S. after those elections is going to be insane. (That's assuming there isn't some horrific tragedy on that day.) And then, if the attacks and kidnappings and mayhem continue, a lot of people are going to wonder what the point of having those elections so soon was, and if the elections were properly conducted, and what it really means to them when their cities are in ruins and their lives completely suck. | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2875 Registered: 8-2003 |
 This is precisely why Kerry lost. The defeatest attitude from the Left surrounding our Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns is hysterical. And that's all you have to offer. That and the UN, which -- darn it -- says things are a go for elections even with the setbacks. The sovereignty handover improved security until the next step of democracy came to the fore, and then it gets hairy again, until the next step. And the next step. The South and the North are in on this, and there is a suppressed support for elections even within Sunni areas. No, Iraq won't suddenly be at peace with these elections, but it's another step in the right direction. Woe, despair and complaining don't win wars or elections. | ||
| Matthew Citizen Username: Basketball1127 Post Number: 92 Registered: 11-2004  |
Wow Cjc sounds like Iraq is going great! What channel do you watch? | ||
| cjc Citizen Username: Cjc Post Number: 2877 Registered: 8-2003 |
At no point did I say things were going great. I said, basically, that they were going, but 'going' they are with 'setbacks' and 'things getting hairy' and the like. They are not the total loss that notehead paints them to be. I mean, he's leaving out 2/3 of the Iraq in his assessment. What do you know about the slates of candidates that are evolving, Matthew? I know what channel you watch, so I won't ask. You have to read to find out what I'm talking about. | ||
| Face Citizen Username: Face Post Number: 444 Registered: 5-2001  |
Notehead, you may not hate America, but even you can admit that some liberals, (and feel free to include yourself if you wish), do hate George Bush. Hey, a lot of Conservatives did the same with Bill Clinton. They blamed him (and some still do) more for not doing things rather than doing them. These same liberals use Bush as the object of their hatred and point the finger of blame at him for just about everything that they find wrong with what has been going on in our country since 9/11, and perhaps even before. They blame him for Enron, suggest that Cheney’s contacts at Haliburton are profiteering from the war in Iraq, and that his administration is trampling upon our civil rights. They especially blame him for being spiritual! Oh yeah, any money Haliburton is making pales when compared to the “Oil for Food” program. And exactly who profited? Perhaps we’ll find out more, but it present it seems as though Kofi Anon’s son did. It looks like there are more U.N. connected folks and important politicians in France and Russia that profited. And where is the outrage from the liberals? With misbehaving children it is sometimes called it tough love. It is tough to love those who constantly criticize and never offer solutions. Oh yeah, let’s have a summit meeting. We can take it to the U.N and build a coalition and partnerships with France and Russia and hey maybe Israel too. So do us all a favor. Why not prepare a list of the U. N.’s positive accomplishments? Try and be recent, you know like in the last few years. Yes, they do some fine work with the AIDS problem, (with the US as the largest financial contributor). Such a list will serve to educate me and others on exactly how wonderful the U.N. is at promoting world peace and saving the lives of the weak in the nations of the world. I say the U.N. should consider moving to say Port au Prince Haiti. I’m sure they’d be welcomed. And at least the U.N. presence there might offer an improved opportunity for that nation. I’ll bet there is ample parking too. The U.N isn't perfect, neither is Bush. But I'd much rather have Bush running our country then Kofi Anon and his band of theives. Say what you will about Bush, but at least he loves ths country, many at the U.n do not. And if liberals love this country, why do they act as if they don't? | ||
| Montagnard Citizen Username: Montagnard Post Number: 1339 Registered: 6-2003  |
If traditional America and the Free World hated Jesusland, we wouldn't be trying to liberate it now, would we? Love the sinner, hate the sin. I know it's a bit complicated at first but it will make sense once you start thinking about it. | ||
| Face Citizen Username: Face Post Number: 446 Registered: 5-2001 |
I just don't get the Jesusland reference. To whom or what are you referring? I guess you're just too smart for me. Is it possible to live in a "blue state" yet believe that Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior? One thing you have to admit about ol Jesus, he sure influenced a lot of people over the years. A lot of them believed their lives were improved as a result of their faith. I guess you can't say that. And to think Jesus used to even have a major impact on the economy. Yup, used to be a lot of folks celebrated his birth around this time of year. Now we have "Winter Holiday" and "Seasons Greetings". |
