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Matthew
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Username: Basketball1127

Post Number: 109
Registered: 11-2004


Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Liberals are dumb? Statistics show that liberals are MUCH more educated than conservatives. The avg IQ's in Blue States dominate those of Red states. Studies have shown the higher the level of education one has, he's multiple times more likely to be a Democrat. Thanks for playing.

The point was not that Bush is the next Hitler. The point is that while you are excitedly posting and almost giddy with the fact that "the American people" have chosen Bush as Time's Person of the year!... that is not an honor, when people as bad as Hitler have been chosen. Is that too complicated?

You're a class act. Class act retard.
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Southerner
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Username: Southerner

Post Number: 30
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 4:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is hilarious.
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Bobkat
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Username: Bobk

Post Number: 7066
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 5:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush has a tough four years ahead of him. He is facing a revolt in the House from the more conservative members of his party, as the Inteligence Bill fiasco showed. In the Senate their are a number of Republicans who are probably not going to vote in lockstep with his agenda, especially on social issues.

His victory last month was a product of a really brillant campaign run by Karl Rove and the fact that Kerry ran a God awful campaign and never established himself clearly on any major issues.

I admire Bush because he sticks with his views, right or wrong. I think this also was one of the reasons he was reelected.

The midterm elections should be very interesting.

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Straw's world
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Post Number: 4174
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 8:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can agree with some of Bobkat's points to a degree.

Nohero has been reduced to pretty much correcting typos. In other words if your spell check is out of sync, or you simply goofed on a word, you can count on Nohero. This pretty much comes as a result of the fact that he never gets anything right. He was wrong in 2000, he was wrong in 2004, he was even wrong during our local elections that sent Jerry and Vic packing.

As a matter of fact I can't recall the last time Nohero was right about anything. He does post some cute pictures though.

Can someone please post a time, any time that Nohero made a point about something that actually turned out to be true? Anyone?

(excluding spelling checks!)

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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4175
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 8:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

Our young friend Matthew seems to believe that he can personally attack other posters with name calling and not be punished. I'm sure calling someone else a "retard" on the playgrounds at Columbia is fine, but not here in the real world.

"You're a class act. Class act retard."

Dave, I do believe Matthew needs a time out.

I thank you in advance.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero

Post Number: 4223
Registered: 10-1999


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 8:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Can someone please post a time, any time that Nohero made a point about something that actually turned out to be true? Anyone?"

I'll keep trying, don't you worry.
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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4176
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 9:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nohero,

You mean you won't be the next Tom? Beaten into submission.

Where is our old pal Tom anyway?
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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 4807
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 9:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Indeed,
"You're a class act. Class act retard."
is not the level of discourse we're aiming for.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro

Post Number: 520
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Southerner, isn't it though? Actually, it's less humorous for some of us because these people live right near by. You have the benefit of several hundred (if not thousand) miles between you and them.
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jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz

Post Number: 466
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

Is being called "dumb" and "useless" a higher level of discourse?

Pot/Kettle, y'know.
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RR
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 49
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave,

Is being called a sissy a higher level of discourse?

How does Straw get away with his childish insults but noone else catches a break?
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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4178
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RR,
Allow me to explain. If I call someone who follows a certain ideology a moron or someone who gets their nails done a sissy, I'm not making a personal attack. It's like when someone calls Bush dumb. That's an attack on all those who voted for him, but not a personal attack.

Now If I were to call you a sissy, that would be a personal attack.

These rules and more can be found in the rules section of MOL.
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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 637
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think Straw's bigger problem is that his schtick has become monotonous and, to use his favorite word, boring. He's a complete snooze-fest, as predictable as an episode of Scooby-Doo, with none of the humor.
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RR
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 50
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How is calling Bush dumb an attack on all those who voted for him?? How is calling someone a moron because they follow a certain ideology not a personal attack? And how is calling someone a sissy because they get their nails done not a personal attack?

Man, you have your own rules, don't you?
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Straw's world
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Post Number: 4179
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

allow me to explain once again.

If I call all liberals morons, this is not a personal attack. It's like saying anyone who likes green cars is a moron.

Now, if I were to say hey John Doe, you're a moron because you like green cars, this would be a personal attack.

clear?
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RR
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 51
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NO, not clear. You obviously take offense when someone makes a disparaging remark about Bush or Republicans or Conservatives...otherwise you wouldn't shoot back with your "mild" insults.

If I am a Liberal and you call all Liberals morons, I take offense.

You need a lesson in common courtesy. CLEAR?
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Straw's world
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Post Number: 4180
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I take offense when my President is called a war criminal here on MOL.
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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 639
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush may or may not be a war criminal, but his hombres are being tried as such.




From OfficialWire NewsDesk:

Rumsfeld, others are the problem, be part of the solution

Call on the German Federal Prosecutor to investigate Rumsfeld and other U.S. Officials for war crimes at Abu Ghraib

by OfficialWire NewsDesk


NEW YORK, NY -- (OfficialWire) -- 12/19/04 -- The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and four Iraqis who were tortured in U.S. custody filed a complaint on November 30, 2004 with the German Federal Prosecutor’s Office against high ranking United States civilian and military commanders over the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison and elsewhere in Iraq.

The CCR is asking the German prosecutor to launch an investigation because the U.S. government is unwilling to open an independent investigation into the responsibility of these officials for war crimes and the U.S. has refused to join the International Criminal Court. CCR and the Iraqi victims brought this complaint to Germany as a court of last resort. Several of the defendants are stationed in Germany.

The Pentagon and the U.S. government are taking this suit very seriously. According to the Deutsche Press Agency, Donald Rumsfeld has warned Germany that he will not attend an upcoming security conference in Munich if there is any indication of an investigation going forward, and Chief Pentagon Spokesman Larry Di Rita, calling the complaint "frivolous," said that he raised the case with the State Department: "State is engaged in this. Obviously, it's something that we're focused on and very concerned with…" Please encourage the German prosecutor not to bow to U.S. pressure.

Defendants in the suit include Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, former CIA Director George Tenet, Lt. General Ricardo S. Sanchez, Major-General Walter Wojdakowski, Brig.-General Janis Karpinski, Lt.-Colonel Jerry L. Phillabaum, Colonel Thomas M. Pappas, Lt.-Colonel Stephen L. Jordan, Major-General Geoffrey Miller, and Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Stephen Cambone.

German law allows German courts to prosecute for killing, torture, cruel and inhumane treatment, forcible transfers and sexual coercion such as occurred at Abu Ghraib. The world has seen the photographs and read the leaked “torture memos” – we are doing what is necessary when other systems of justice have failed and seeking to hold officials up the chain of command responsible for the shameful abuses that occurred.

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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4181
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

boring
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Phenixrising
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Username: Phenixrising

Post Number: 260
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup! Just like this thread topic
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RR
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 52
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As usual, you can't defend your annoying and insulting posts like an adult. You have your own rules.
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Albatross
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Username: Albatross

Post Number: 421
Registered: 9-2004


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So because a couple of the left wing-nuts called Bush a war criminal, you feel that you are justified in calling all liberals idiots? That's like me condemning all conservatives because Strom Thurmond was in your corner. You are correct: it's a stupid connection. I don't equate anyone here with Thurmond; don't equate all liberals with their wackos.

Every other word out of your mouth is 'boring,' 'idiot,' 'moron,' and on and on and on. If you actually cared about the President's policies and image you would spend more time making rational arguements in favor of them and gaining a little respect for it, instead of costing yourself respect every time you open your mouth. Heck, you might even win a few votes for your party.

As it is, you just help cause threads like the one that asked, 'any intelligent conservatives on MOL?' Because there are, but all some people want to see is you mouthing off, much the same as there are many on your side who would rather shout about Michael Moore than listen to rational arguements from the left. You don't help anybody when all you do is insult and dismiss.

This'll be the test. Will Straw continue to demonstrate discourtesy to himself, his political opponents, and his political allies? Or is this post boring?

We report, you decide...
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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4182
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"This'll be the test. Will Straw continue to demonstrate discourtesy to himself, his political opponents, and his political allies? Or is this post boring?"


Well since I'm not a politician I really don't have political enemies or allies.

You do realize this?



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Albatross
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Username: Albatross

Post Number: 423
Registered: 9-2004


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By that I mean those whose views you identify with, and those whose views you do not.
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RR
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 53
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How much longer will you continue to talk down to anyone that doesn't agree with you?? Ugh, I thought Maplewood was a place where everyone's opinions were valid.
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RR
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 54
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Albatross, haven't you noticed that whenever Straw is called on the mat over something he has said he never addresses it? He always alters the subject to divert the issue against him.

Interesting, ain't it.
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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4183
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Maplewood was a place where everyone's opinions were valid."

Yes, this is true. Your opinions mean the world to me.
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RR
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Username: Rogers4317

Post Number: 55
Registered: 6-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Case in point.
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jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz

Post Number: 469
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please do not feed the trolls. That goes for me too.

Thank you.
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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4185
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ringo sucks
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notehead
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Post Number: 1829
Registered: 5-2001


Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 2:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I feel compelled to post this again...


straw
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Phenixrising
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Username: Phenixrising

Post Number: 264
Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 2:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Straw's world
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Username: Strawberry

Post Number: 4186
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 4:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I told notey the last time he posted that pic that I thought it was funny. I still do.

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