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Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 581
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 - 11:23 pm: |     |
Did I miss something, like half an episode? What is Locke doing back? What happened with Ethan? Where's Claire? When did the doc and the chick get back? What the heck is going on? |
Just The Aunt
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Username: Auntof13
Post Number: 399
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 12:13 am: | |
I thought they were going to start this series over again from the beginning. Anyone know when? |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1217
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 8:14 am: | |
1. Sounds like you missed the last episode
2. They re-ran the series from the beginning over the holidays.
3. Might want to go to abc.com and look up the episode guide to see what you missed...that last episode was a big one.
4. It's BAAACK and awesome! And I stayed up way too late to watch Alias which is better than ever. Good thing my husband was at a basketball game so I could watch them uninterrupted. |
jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 505
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 9:21 am: | |
I must have missed something too. I didn't know that Jack knew about Kate's little police problem. Also, when they reran the series I think they skipped an episode. I'm sure I watched all the reruns but all of a sudden they were talking about half the group moving inland as if they'd discussed it before, and they hadn't. |
Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 583
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 9:43 am: | |
Went through the episode guide last night beore posting. Episode 11 ended, as far as I remember, with Locke and Boone(?) finding the metal hatch, Doc and Kate finding Charlie hanging from the tree and the doc resuscitating him. No conclusion about Claire. So why dose no one seem to care what happened to Claire anymore? When did Locke and Boone, and the Doc, Kate and Charlie get back to the group?
Argh. I really hate this stuff. I TiVo'd all the episodes, but my wife deletes them after we watch them. Even the episode guide, though, doesn't explain why no one is interested in Claire anymore. |
Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 1397
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 9:46 am: | |
You guys have to get Tivo. I don't know if the shows ran late one week or did a double play but all of the shows were on. Jake knew about Kate well before (2-3 weeks) Jake moved to the caves. Locke was back for atleast a week because the two of them have been looking for Claire
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro
Post Number: 584
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 10:03 am: | |
Brett, from what I remember, this was the sequence with finding Claire - Jack went running off to find Claire. Locke followed. jack was going in circles. Jack and Kate split off from Locke and Boone. Locke and Boone evetually find the metal hatch in the ground. Jack and Kate find Charlie in a tree, and revive him. The the episode ended. Now everyone is back on the beach, no one is looking for Claire, and no one seems concerned about Ethan.
Even the episode guide on abc.com seems to have a disconnect. |
growler
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Username: Growler
Post Number: 373
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 10:16 am: | |
Phew! And I thought it was just me last night that was confused. I'm not going crazy...yet. |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1218
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 10:24 am: | |
Ah. I think they gave up searching for Claire because of what happened to Charlie...they were afraid if they kept searching the "Ethans" would do something to her (didn't Ethan say that if they kept searching something would happen?). Plus the whole crisis of the current moving in (which was bizarre in its timing, huh) basically made the focus switch to finding a safe place on the beach.
I think the assumption is that it is basically the next day and they have no idea where or how to search for Claire. Many of the other episodes seemed to end/begin as if no time had passed (kind of like 24, which I can't wait to start) but this one started a day or so later. |
Brett
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Username: Bmalibashksa
Post Number: 1399
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 10:27 am: | |
Wendyn is right. And last night Jack was asking how he could find the French woman so he could ask about Claire. So they didn’t give up on her.
This is episode 10.
http://epguide.lookinglost.net/RbA.html
This is episode 11.
http://epguide.lookinglost.net/AtBCHDI.html
Last night was 12
http://epguide.lookinglost.net/WtCMB.html
Next episode (no spoilers)
http://epguide.lookinglost.net/HeartsandMinds.html
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redY67
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 540
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 11:55 am: | |
I just started getting into Lost and love it! Thanks Brett for the website, now I feel up to date except for one thing. I can't remember who Ethan is, and I didn't see his pic under the character bio? HELP  |
SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1639
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 12:21 pm: | |
Ethan's the guy who, although was among the survivors, tured out not to be on the manifest. He kidnapped the pregnant Claire and hung Charlie (who Doc & Kate were able to save). |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1220
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 1:07 pm: | |
I thought the Charlie hanging was the only thing I didn't like about the whole show so far. I HATE last minute recessitations of the already-dead. |
redY67
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Username: Redy67
Post Number: 541
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 1:54 pm: | |
SoOrlady, thanks but I missed that episode  So I still am confused by who he is. Can you describe him from another episode?? Thanks!! |
eliz
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Username: Eliz
Post Number: 936
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 3:53 pm: | |
Do you think Ethan is the french woman's son? |
Joan
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Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 4660
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 4:40 pm: | |
That's one possibility. Another is that he is one of the beings who were already on the Island when the French woman and her family landed.
I doubt anyone has given up on Claire. The scene with Rose and Charlie on the beach keeps Claire's character alive and suggests that Claire may well re-emerge in the future.
I wonder if the December 26th Tsunami influenced the beach erosion scene or if that episode had aleady been filmed by then. If one discounts the Tsunami influence (or coincidence), the beach erosion is a handy mechanism for reuniting the beach dwellers and the cave dwellers. |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1226
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 4:54 pm: | |
I think the episode was filmed well before the tsunami.
Red, Ethan was an average height middle aged white guy. I think he was only in that one episode, making himself at home with the survivors. I don't remember seeing him before then. |
eliz
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Username: Eliz
Post Number: 937
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 5:26 pm: | |
That whole Ethan/Claire thing is so creepy. Not sure Claire will survive (although I bet the baby does). I read an interview with JJ Abrams a few months ago and he said not to get too attached to the characters as there would be quite a few who wouldn't survive.
Lost is the best thing to happen to tv since Alias (well..even better) - Wednesday is now "must see tv" |
ronzio
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Username: Ronzio
Post Number: 86
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 6, 2005 - 11:04 pm: | |
Ethan was introduced in the "Island Golf" episode, when Hurley invented the Island Tournament.
WendyN, I normally agree with you, but since this island appears to have some magic, you have to wonder if Charlie didn't actually die, but came back b/c it's what Jack wished for, like when Charlie wished for the guitar, and found it, Hurley wished for a diversion, and found golf clubs, the boy (can't remember his name) kept wishing for specific numbers while playing backgammon, and he got them, etc...
The island is very powerful, and I think Charlie surviving was just another way of the creators hinting at that.
Clearly I'm a little too into this show... : ) |
Wendyn
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Username: Wendyn
Post Number: 1227
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 7, 2005 - 8:03 am: | |
Ah, ronzio, I didn't think of it like that. Very cool. I didn't think of it as a "wish" moment, more of a "that guy from LOTR can't die" moment. I like your version better. |
SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1640
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 7, 2005 - 8:34 am: | |
So.. Lost is just a rip off of an old Star Trek episode?  The one where the crew went to a planet for R&R and everytime they thought of something it appeared... anyone remember that one? |
ronzio
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Username: Ronzio
Post Number: 87
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 7, 2005 - 9:27 am: | |
I have vague recollections of that episode, but I'd say this show has much more going for it than that, otherwise it would be a one trick pony. For example, why did the plane crash in the first place, how is it that these people survived and others didn't, what is it about their past that brings them together. And what of the people who have been on the island before (right now, we only know for sure that the French Woman has been there for awhile, but she alludes to others--and was Ethan with her-perhaps her son-or is he one of the the ones she warns of?), and what the heck is the metal structure like object that Locke and Boone found. So many questions, so much more to this show than the island being a wish-granter.
Yup, I'm obsessed...I need help. |
eliz
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Username: Eliz
Post Number: 939
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 7, 2005 - 9:53 am: | |
What about the fact that Locke was in a wheelchair before the crash but then could walk on the island?
Or the psychic that freaked about Claire's baby and told her to get on that specific flight to LA? |
jjkatz
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Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 507
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 7, 2005 - 10:09 am: | |
One theory is that all of them are already dead. That would explain Locke's ability to walk now, and many other things. |
ronzio
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Username: Ronzio
Post Number: 88
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 7, 2005 - 9:52 pm: | |
Okay, this is interesting. The flight number of the plane they were on was #815. Apparently, the lockbox that Kate wanted to get access to was box number 815. Nice... |
SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1644
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2005 - 12:15 am: | |
ronzio - you need to give a class on the little extras you seem to gleen from this show..... I'm sure The Arts would give you an open mike... or maybe everyone could meet and watch the show there, then you could give us your perspective..... sounds like a fun night... whatcha think? |
ronzio
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Username: Ronzio
Post Number: 89
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2005 - 12:35 pm: | |
HAHA. SoOrLady, if only these were my observations. I'm standing on the shoulders of others...those far more addicted than I am. I got that one of the ABC Lost Message Boards. I did verify it, however. : ) |
Joan
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Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 4674
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2005 - 1:17 pm: | |
Hmm...let's see...8+1+5 = 14, which is the number of characters we are are supposed to pay special attention to...isn't is great what you can do with numbers? |
SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1645
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 8, 2005 - 3:51 pm: | |
ronzio - ah.. I see... so where do you stand on the Loop Theory? |
ronzio
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Username: Ronzio
Post Number: 91
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 9:26 am: | |
I have two ideas, and neither is very well thought out.
I don't go for the Loop Theory. I think that it's more likely a mystical explanation. I know they say it's not purgatory, but still, I feel that somehow God, or some higher power, as something to do with this.
OR...
It's just an elaborate government cover up type thing.
Either would have an audience, right? I mean, you have either God offering redemption, or the government hiding people and doing some odd study on them.
Either way, I hope they take their time telling me what the real deal is. Much like Carnivale is slowly, slowly, slowly telling it's story. |
Joan
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Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 4714
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 5:17 pm: | |
Is Locke really Locke? One explanation for Locke's being able to walk now is that his body has been taken over by one of the beings who are said to have inhabited the Island before the plane crash.
In yesterday's episode Locke showed a far darker side than he has before. The impression given is that he is directly responsible for Shannon's death. |
SoOrLady
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Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1668
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 5:47 pm: | |
Except that Shannon's not dead. Locke seems to have the ability to draw out the unhealthy issues that each person he chooses to help is dealing with. There was Charlie's drug habit and, in last night's case, it was Shannon's manipulation of her step-brother, Boone. Now Boone is "free". |
ronzio
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Username: Ronzio
Post Number: 93
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 10:19 am: | |
I don't think it's Locke that is doing that. I think it's the 'monster'. The power of the island itself. I think Locke is helping people experience the island's powers, b/c he's the first person to have witnessed it firsthand (when he saw the monster during the boar hunt in the initial episode). Since he was able to walk on this island, and was able to live the adventure he's dreamed of, his natural reaction to being on this island is that it's wonderful. He's enjoying it. So for him, the 'monster', whatever it is, is not a monster, but a source of power that can be very good. He let Boone experience it, and now he's 'free', as you said, SoOrLady.
Now, the question is, since we've seen that this thing can play with their minds, how much of what we've seen and taken as fact is real, and how much was the power tapping into everyone's psyche? For example, did Sayed REALLY meet the French woman, or did he just imagine it, like Boone imagined Shannon being killed, and like Jack imagined seeing his father. |
woodstock
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Username: Woodstock
Post Number: 866
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 9:50 pm: | |
I believe Sayed saw the french woman because he took things from her and others have seen them. I believe Boone's hallucination was due to something Locke put into the balm he put on Boone's head.
I think the minor hallucinations people are seeing (like Jack seeing his dad) are a combination of stress and nerves.
Yes, I think there is something on the island, but I don't think it's as mystical as they're making it out to be. |
growler
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Username: Growler
Post Number: 387
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 1:26 pm: | |
So is the boy the key? Maybe the black rock is mystical and it amplifies his abilities... |
Sgt. Pepper
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Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 573
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 21, 2005 - 8:32 pm: | |
This past episode made me wonder whether the boy had made the plane crash with his mind. I figured that's what the bird crashing into the window was about. |
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