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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 1:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And how many of the above mentioned venues have ANY branches located in anything BUT A MALL???
One if any at all? Not a real possibility.They are not the type of places that exist in downtown shopping areas any more.
Now, if we could condemn Seton Hall for eminant domain and turn it into a taxPAYING entity,we might have a shot at luring these stores to our borders.
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Joan
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nancy:

Towns like Westfield and Summit have lured mall-type shops to their downtowns but they provide much more parking than we do, have a larger downtown area, and bigger commercial store fronts than SO/M.

I'm told that these stores survive in the downtown environment because they tailor their stock to the particular demographics of the town in which they locate. It is possible to attract a mall-type store to Maplewood/South Orange but the resulting business would not look quite like its mall cousin.
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Taylor M
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LL I like your idea about getting rid of SHU!!!

I've seen successful card stores, bookstores, Applebees and Verizon stores outside of a mall. And lots of Roy Rogers! <s>

It's too bad life has changed so much since I was a kid. South Orange had a lot of great stores! Starks, Becks, Vose, Village Music, The Skate store, Pickwick Village, Mr Sub, Grunnings, a bakery, Bellings. <sigh>
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composerjohn
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 5:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Upper Montclair has a Gap and a William Sonoma (both mall stores). They have been there for a while - I assume they are doing well.
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 7:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Taylor, not saying that we couldn't attract independent card stores, book stores, restaurants, clothing shops.. Saw a sign for a new Verizon stoe in S.O.
But we don't have the physical layout in Downtown S.O. for big Mall or strip mall chain types. Not enough parking, little current foot traffic, no megasize empty,unclaimed storefronts..
And besides , contrary to rumours started on this board,the Livingston Mall ain't going nowhere (yet)
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LibraryLady(ncjanow)
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of the 25 major malls in N.J., Livingston is the second most shopped. Would Simon really want to close it?
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Lydia
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't stand the Livingston Mall - what a depressing bunch of stores, reminds me of the Newport Mall but w/ free parking.

My daughter calls it "The Stealing Mall" because every other time we go there we see a security guard chasing a shoplifter down the aisles.

Sterile and depressing - a medical center would fit in just fine IMO.
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suzanneng
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 9:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LL - which is the first ? Has to be a Paramus mall...- Garden State Plaza?

--Suzanne (originally from Bergen County)
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Just The Aunt
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

suzann
I bet Short Hills is first.
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sk8mom
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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was just in the Livingston Mall today. There is a big sign on the counter of Kids Kuts that neither the mall nor the land is being sold to St. Barnabas, this was confirmed recently with Simon Corporate, there are no deals in the works, and this is just a rumor.

Whew! What would I do w/o Lord & Taylor?!
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Joan
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Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 5:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The sign was on the counter of Kids Kuts? Sounds like someone there reads MOL.
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kmk
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bet Shoshannah's son's hair cutter at Kidz Kutz is in deep doo doo! And I thought it was only the Upper East Side salons that were the viscious rumour mills....
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Bobkat
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shucks, I was hoping it would be a scene in Blues Borthers III. In the original movie Elwood and Jake just about destroyed a mall with their ex Mt. Prospect police car, which I still think is one of the great car chases in any movie. :-(

The mall was somewhere in Chicagoland and had been closed for remodeling.
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shoshannah
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope my son's haircutter still works there! He's the only one who gives him a good haircut. In his defense, he DID say that the mall was not being sold.
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argon_smythe
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Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lydia, sorry you find normal, utilitarian stores with practical shopping choices depressing. Happily, you can while away your days at the pretentious, overpriced, and thoroughly inconvenient Short Hills Mall (oh sorry I mean "The Mall At Short Hills"), narrowly avoiding a brush with the likes of Sears and the like.

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algebra2
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the Livingston Mall! It has everything I need. AT Loft, Old Navy, Gap, Spencer's, bookstore, toy store, that neat rollercoaster simulater ride on thingee, Models, Subway Sandwiches.
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Wendyn
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with alg. Don't forget Sears for kids undies and Lands End stuff. When I say we're going to the mall the kids want it to be Livingston.

That said I got a bunch of stuff on sale at Nordstrom's yesterday.
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Chris Prenovost
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing wrong with the Livingston mall, but there is no reason for argon smythe to get nasty.
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argon_smythe
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Umm go back and read the post I was responding to.
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eliz
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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 7:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like Livingston Mall (I love Short Hills but that's another story). The kids want to go because of Build a Bear and the little rides.
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Bobkat
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 5:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Livingston Mall is your average generic mall that, if you cover over the Macy's and Lord and Taylor sign could be anywhere in the United States with all the midlevel chain stores. However, sometimes a generic mall is the place to go buy, well, generic merchandise.

Yeah, we shop at Old Navy, The Gap, etc. as do probably 90 percent of the people in Maplewood and South Orange. Still, in my travels it never ceases to amaze me how homoggenized our country has become because of national chains and I am not sure I like it.

Before he passed away my father lived on the West Coast of Florida for several years. My comment was that it was basically Columbus, Ohio with palm trees.
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Soda
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Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 8:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quite.

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