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Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4303
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 - 11:00 pm: | 
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ML: I'm not surprised. Sponge Bob is a pretty hole-y guy ... |
Dave
Moderator
Username: Dave
Post Number: 5150
Registered: 4-1998
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 - 11:05 pm: |
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ughh. that was bad. |
ML
Supporter
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2236
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 - 11:36 pm: |
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right you are nohero.
but that makes him porous -- not pious. |
Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4304
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 2, 2005 - 11:56 pm: |
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Not to mention absorbent and yellow ...
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Wilkanoid
Citizen
Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 313
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 9:22 am: |
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And living in a pineapple under the sea! |
lnaz
Citizen
Username: Lnaz
Post Number: 49
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 9:22 am: |
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http://www.family.org/docstudy/newsletters/a0035339.cfm?refcd=DM05AESB&tvar=n |
Wilkanoid
Citizen
Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 314
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 9:29 am: |
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" Parents, I urge you to keep a close eye on your sons and daughters. Watch carefully everything that goes into their little minds. Monitor their textbooks and the words of their teachers. Do not turn them over to harmful television programs. When God’s name is used in vain, or when sex and violence come on the screen, turn off the tube and then read and discuss together the scriptures found in Psalm 103:1: "I will set before my eyes no vile thing" [NIV]. Read uplifting and inspiring stories to your children daily. This obligation to teach your children biblical truths continually is unmistakably written in Deuteronomy 6:6-8, which tells us:
These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands, and bind them on your foreheads. Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates. [NIV]"
James C. Dobson
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But I DO watch Sponge Bob with them, I do!
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sportsnut
Citizen
Username: Sportsnut
Post Number: 1728
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 9:38 am: |
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I love Spongebob. My family and I recite lines all the time while we're sitting at the dinner table.
My son's favorite line is, "It had become painfully obvious. I can deny it no longer. I am small.
Plankton is hilarious. |
Wilkanoid
Citizen
Username: Cseleosida
Post Number: 315
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 9:46 am: |
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I regret to inform you that our aquarium snail, Gary, passed away recently from neglect. |
joeltfk
Citizen
Username: Joeltfk
Post Number: 85
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 2:45 pm: |
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Another story, Buster this time:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/02/03/student.tolerance.ap/index.html
Seriously -- how do SOMA schools deal with gay representations? Do libraries -- elementary school libraries in particular -- carry books that depict gay lifestyles as perfectly normal. Are gay themes covered in class in any way and are teachers trained to deal with gay issues when they arise spontaneously in the classroom?
Anyone out there know what the policies or protocols are in SOMA elementary schools?
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ina
Citizen
Username: Ina
Post Number: 163
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 3:01 pm: |
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"carry books that depict gay lifestyles as perfectly normal" wha-hut? As opposed to? And whose gay lifestyle? Mine? Michael Musto's? |
joeltfk
Citizen
Username: Joeltfk
Post Number: 86
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 3:19 pm: |
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Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% pro- gay rights and gay marriage rights and think it's fine to expose children to gay lifestyles and gay parents at the earliest ages.
I'm just wondering if there's any policy of censorship or if gay lifestyles are otherwise ignored or avoided in the elementary classroom. As you remember, several years ago, New York lost its Chancellor over the handling of curriculum related to "Heather Has Two Mommies" when school board members and local "mommies" found it offensive.
I certainly don't mean to imply that gay lifestyles are anything but normal. |
ML
Supporter
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2238
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 4:19 pm: |
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joel,
in SOMA, it's a moot point as to what's presented to kids in school. kids in our community are already aware at the earliest ages that some kids have two dads or two moms. |
joeltfk
Citizen
Username: Joeltfk
Post Number: 88
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 5:10 pm: |
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ML,
Would that mean it would be okay if the schools had no African-Americans depicted in literature and programs because there's enough racial diversity reflected in town?
I'm not assuming anything about the schools here -- I honestly don't know, which is why I'm asking. I also wanted to get a sense of how conservative the town's minority of conservatives really are. |
ina
Citizen
Username: Ina
Post Number: 164
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 5:37 pm: |
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Joel and other sympathisers,
please don't use the term "gay lifestyle." Does the term "heterosexual lifestyle" mean anything to you? Both terms are meaningless, because there are infinite ways of being gay, or straight. Adult people can be gay. Anybody/thing with the mentality of a prepubescent child cannot be gay, which is my 2 cents on the whole Spongebob thing. |
joeltfk
Citizen
Username: Joeltfk
Post Number: 89
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 7:49 pm: |
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I apologize, Ina. I recognize that being gay is not a choice or "lifestyle," but just a state of being. I was looking for a noun form and found the wrong one.
I just find the messages projected and promulgated by Ms. Spellings, Mr. Dobson, and the middle-to-far right morally reprehensible. Every time I read about public school policy that is pressured to or actively institutionalizes and encourages homophobia, it makes my blood boil, and I need to know it isn't happening -- even subtly -- here.
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mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 4592
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 3, 2005 - 7:56 pm: |
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"Do libraries -- elementary school libraries in particular -- carry books that depict gay lifestyles as perfectly normal?"
Joel - So what the heck is perfectly normal?
Sheesh. |
joeltfk
Citizen
Username: Joeltfk
Post Number: 91
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 4, 2005 - 10:24 am: |
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Fine. Here's my question (let's avoid the semantical back-and-forth): Do local libraries carry books for kids that depict gay lifestyles. Period. I think they should. Many districts around the country don't or censor them. If our new Secretary of Education had her way, it's clear she would keep them out. I just want to know, that's all.
Maybe what gets me in trouble is that in describing what I fear I have to put it in terms only the opposition would use. |
campbell29
Citizen
Username: Campbell29
Post Number: 129
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 4, 2005 - 10:51 am: |
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I believe I have seen the much dreaded "Heather has two Mommies" kicking around at the SB library. Don't know how frequently it gets checked out.
As for the kids, they seem to see nothing more positive or negative about same sex parents than they do about male/female parents, different race parents or divorced parents. It just exists in their world and they are comfortable with it, I guess because nobody has ever told them it was "wrong" |
themp
Supporter
Username: Themp
Post Number: 1408
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 4, 2005 - 11:06 am: |
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True story - once when I was in college, Sponge Bob and I stayed up really late, and we had had a lot of Jeigermeister. He was talking a lot about his family, and Patrick, and Squidward not really understanding him. Anyway, he came on to me, and it was kind of awkward because I wasn't interested, so we agreed never to discuss it. |
Soda
Supporter
Username: Soda
Post Number: 2476
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 4, 2005 - 11:43 am: |
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ML
Supporter
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2241
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 5, 2005 - 11:41 am: |
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hey, I don't know about SpongeBob, but why don't these watchdogs get "My Fair Lady" banned? That is the gayest movie I've ever seen.
"Why can't a woman be more like a man?"
Yeah, right. |
anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 1640
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 5, 2005 - 3:34 pm: |
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These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands, and bind them on your foreheads. Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.
James C. Dobson
Does Rev. Dobson put on tefilin every morning or have mezzuzahs on his door posts?
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sk8mom
Citizen
Username: Sk8mom
Post Number: 86
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, February 6, 2005 - 11:14 pm: |
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I thought Sponge Bob had a crush on Sandy when she first came to Bikini Bottom. How does that jive with him being gay? or have I just watched too much Sponge Bob?? (My favorite episodes -- "I Miss Texas"; Krusty Krab new employee training video ("P.O.O.P."); Gary leaves Sponge Bob and Sponge Bob gets "Larry"; Sponge Bob's driving test at Mrs. Puff's Boating School. |
Rastro
Citizen
Username: Rastro
Post Number: 690
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:52 pm: |
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Someone knows a little too much about Sponge Bob...
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ML
Supporter
Username: Ml1
Post Number: 2250
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 2:08 pm: |
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the Krusty Krab training video is an absolute TV classic. it's on video, so rent it if you haven't seen it. |
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