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sbenois
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After all these years it sounds like the biggest mystery in American politics is going to be revealed soon.

John Dean has indicated that "Deep Throat" is gravely ill which means that Woodward and Bernstein will finally tell us who it was.

Can't wait.

(I think it was Megan Marshak)
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Mark Fuhrman
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gee, and all this time I thought it was Linda Lovelace.
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Bobkat
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HOw would JOhn Dean know who Deept Throat is? Unless, maybe, he is Deep Throat himself, although the last time I saw him he looked pretty healthy.

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Sgt. Pepper
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My money is on L. Patrick Gray, then Acting Director of the FBI. His apartment had a view of Woodward's terrace (remember the signal flags?) and supposedly he is the only one of the main suspects who would have been available to have met with Woodward at all of the times Woodward claims to have met with DT.
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sbenois
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

Should We Jail Deep Throats - by John Dean 2/6/05


I have little doubt that one of my former Nixon White House colleagues is history's best-known anonymous source — Deep Throat. But I'll be damned if I can figure out exactly which one.

We'll all know one day very soon, however. Bob Woodward, a reporter on the team that covered the Watergate story, has advised his executive editor at the Washington Post that Throat is ill. And Ben Bradlee, former executive editor of the Post and one of the few people to whom Woodward confided his source's identity, has publicly acknowledged that he has written Throat's obituary.

When that posthumous profile reveals the secret name, it will be flash powder on the long-simmering debate about reporters' use of anonymous sources — an issue much in the news lately because my former law school classmate, Thomas F. Hogan, now the chief judge of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, has been holding journalists in contempt of court for refusing to reveal their sources to a grand jury investigating the leak of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame.

I'm caught in the middle on this discussion. As a columnist, occasional freelancer and author of six nonfiction books, I use unidentified sources myself. In fact, I just used one. The source who informed me that Woodward leaked the news of Throat's illness to the executive editor of the Post gave me that information either on "deep background" or "off the record" (I never could get the distinction of those rules straightened out). So I apologize to my source if this information was never meant to be public, but it is a tidbit too hot to keep sitting on.

I don't like using unidentified sources and never was one. During my years at the White House, not to mention those at the Justice Department and on Capitol Hill, I never leaked information, although I was frequently approached. If I couldn't say it on the record, I didn't say it. And because I had no authority to speak on the record, I chose not to speak.

So what is to be made of those who clank jail keys to encourage reporters to reveal their sources?

Without confidential sources, much of what people need to know in a democracy would never be reported, so unless there is a higher reason, journalists must be able to protect such sources who are willing to impart such information. That said, no news person should agree to provide confidentiality unless it is essential to obtain information that the public should be told and there is no other way to obtain the information. A scoop per se does not justify a pledge of confidentiality.

A source may be using the reporter, while the reporter is using the source. Motives range from the noble whistle-blower who is morally offended by misconduct to the staffer who is floating a trial balloon to the low-end leaker who is seeking to gain advantage by sabotaging a competitor or foe.

Reporters and their sources (and the public) must remember that when journalists agree to keep a source confidential, they have entered into a contract. Indeed, reporters have been successfully sued for damages when they have breached their agreement. However, in most states, every contract has an implied warranty of good faith and fair dealing — meaning that neither a reporter nor a source can take unfair advantage of the other. This is important because insiders leak for an array of reasons, not always honorable, and may be using the reporter's confidentiality to protect themselves if, say, they are releasing information obtained improperly. If the source tried to enforce confidentiality, or collect damages from the reporter, the attempt would fail because of implied warranty.

Finally, if the confidential information relates to criminal activity, the U.S. Supreme Court said in 1972 (in Branzburg vs. Hayes) that should a grand jury investigating the crime need the information, the journalist must turn it over — despite the freedom of the press guaranteed under the 1st Amendment.

No reporter can enter into an agreement that violates that law. Rather, an agreement of confidentiality is subject to it. The so-called news person's privilege, just like the attorney-client privilege or a president's executive privilege, is a qualified privilege. When a judge holds a reporter in contempt for violating the law, that judge is merely upholding the law of the land.

As for Deep Throat, well, we will all soon learn if Woodward has been protecting a criminal for three decades, or merely a source who gave him some good information and some bad information — when history's greatest source was wrong — that Woodward has never corrected. (To pick just one of Throat's many errors, I randomly opened "All the President's Men," scanned until I came to the passage in which Woodward reports Throat as giving him this: "Dean talked with Sen. [Howard] Baker after [the] Watergate committee [was] formed and Baker is in the bag completely, reporting back directly to the White House." It never happened.)

I suspect that Throat's identity may prove a cautionary tale for all news gatherers. Stay tuned.


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Dave
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kissinger
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sbenois
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The big rumor the other day was that Deep Throat was none other than George Bush senior...
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fred Fielding, deputy counsel to Nixon
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Parkbench87
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pat Paulsen
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Dave
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was the guess by this journalism class
http://www.news.uiuc.edu/news/03/0422deepthroat.html
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Rastro
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What if it was Rehnquist?
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's right, Dave. For more (much, much more) info on that, check out the website http://deepthroatuncovered.com/

I remember when it came out, and their research and deductive reasonings are very compelling...
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Dave
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ford or Kissinger.
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Local_1_crew
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i always thought it was al haig.
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Barbara
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 8:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I go with Fred Fielding too.
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Ginny Brown
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Posted on Monday, February 7, 2005 - 9:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Pope is in the hospital.
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Cynicalgirl
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Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 4:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, Martha Mitchell passed on a long time ago now, so ...
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Phenixrising
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Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 8:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm guessing Ford. He did pardon Nixon and the guy is not in the best of health.
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Mark Fuhrman
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Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was Ford in a position inside the administration early enough to have the information Deep Throat had?
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Parkbench87
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Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Ford was in the House of Representatives until Agnew walked the plank. Ford didn't become VP until Dec 1973.
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Guy
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Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 2:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Talk about timing.

'Deep Throat' returning to theaters'

LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- "Deep Throat," the infamous 1972 adult film that led to a government crackdown on pornography, is being re-released in theaters as a new generation of lawmakers wages a renewed assault on smut, trade paper Daily Variety reported in its Tuesday edition.

The release of the Linda Lovelace opus, which was banned at the time in 23 states, coincides with the premiere of the documentary "Inside Deep Throat," which hits theaters in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Boston on Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/08/leisure.deepthroat.reut/index.html


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Ukealalio
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Posted on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 - 3:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ford was on the Warren Commision, if he's the one, I'll give him a lot of credit for keeping his mouth shut (he obviously does this better then standing upright).

Al Haig-That would be something. He's on the Board of my company, if he's the one, that autographed photo's gonna fetch me a fortune on E-Bay.

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