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themp
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Post Number: 1458
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The public's confidence in President Bush's job performance and the nation's direction has slipped in the opening weeks of his second term, particularly among people 50 and older, according to an Associated Press poll.

Adults were evenly divided on Bush's job performance in January, but now 54 percent disapprove and 45 percent approve. The number who think the country is headed down the wrong track increased from 51 percent to 58 percent in the past month.
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Mark Fuhrman
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Post Number: 1281
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yah, well, they have 4 more years to deal with it, since the majority voted him in--a bit late now for them to change their minds. And he has 4 years without a care in the world to do whatever his little ideological brain sees fit, since he is done running for office and has no real legattee he is leaving behind.
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
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Post Number: 1063
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

half of the people have disapproved of Bush's performance over the past two years. It's why Bush's campaign strategy had several elements, none of which focused on Bush's performance. The strategy included a relentless bashing of Kerry (remember the RNC?), incessant fear mongering (you'll all die if Kerry wins!) and a mass mobilization of conservative Christians in swing states (remember all the anti-gay marriage referenda?).

we can only hope that the Democrats and a minority of Republican moderates show some spine during Bush's 2nd term and limit the damage the ideologues can do.
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Robert Livingston
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If this were a year ago, we could expect a much-publicized raise in the terror alert level (are they doing those anymore?)

The only thing scary about Bush's social security obsession is his complete lack of coherence on the topic.

Guess it's time for Bush to ratchet up the threat from Iran a notch.

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Michael Janay
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Post Number: 1564
Registered: 1-2003


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry to burst your little bubble...

February 8, 2005- A new CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey shows that President George W. Bush's approval rating has increased to 57%, up from 51% three weeks ago. The increase appears to be related to the Iraqi elections, which the poll shows went better than most Americans expected. In general, the public is more positive now than it was before the elections about the way Bush has handled the situation in Iraq, as well as how the war is faring for the United States.
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Dave
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Post Number: 5252
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael edited out the last sentence in that blurb:


quote:

A new CNN/USA Today/Gallup survey shows that President George W. Bush's approval rating has increased to 57%, up from 51% three weeks ago. The increase appears to be related to the Iraqi elections, which the poll shows went better than most Americans expected. In general, the public is more positive now than it was before the elections about the way Bush has handled the situation in Iraq, as well as how the war is faring for the United States. The poll shows little change in Bush's job approval rating on the economy or on Social Security.




http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=14839

oooooooooh ... SNAP!
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Michael Janay
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Post Number: 1565
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave, Dave, Dave,

By now you should know that I don't open a door I can't close.

From the rest of the article:

The poll shows that 55% of Americans now say the war in Iraq was not a mistake

Also, there is a 13-point increase in the percentage of Americans who say things are going well for the United States in Iraq -- 53% say either "very" or "moderately" well now, compared with 40% prior to the Iraqi elections.

The poll shows that Bush's economic approval held steady at 50%

His Social Security approval rating is now two percentage points higher than in January (43% to 41%, respectively). That difference is well within the poll's margin of error.

Bush's foreign affairs approval rating also shows a slight increase, from 47% to 51%.

So lets recap:

Job Approval: 57%
Iraq: 55% agree it was the right thing to do
Iraq: 53% say war going well
Economy: 50% approval
SS: up 2% points (still low, but as his plan comes out, that'll change.)
Foreign Affairs: 51% approval, up 4%.

Great numbers.

Snap yourself Bizzotch ;)
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Dave
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Post Number: 5253
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 1:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So why the edit?
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Michael Janay
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Post Number: 1566
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 1:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bait...

But I wasn't expecting YOU to take it.
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ML
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Post Number: 2283
Registered: 5-2002


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 6:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's always important to look at a range of polls. RCP puts Bush at 52% approval in their average of al polls taken in the past week:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/bush_ja.html
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AlleyGater
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Post Number: 69
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Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Am I wrong here? I thought it only takes 2 years for Bush to become a true Lame Duck. Then we get to watch him do absolutely nothing for another 2 years before he is gone. Let's just hope he doesn't do too much more damage in these first 2 years.
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Michael Janay
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Post Number: 1572
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lame duck means the period AFTER an election when the incumbent is still in office and the elected hasn't been innaugurated.

Thats why "lame duck" sessions of congress are in November after elections. It means that the incumbents can vote however they want because they are either safely re-elected, or they are on their way out for the next term.

In other words, Bush won't be a lame duck until November of 2008.

So yes, you are wrong here.
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joeltfk
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Post Number: 107
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FROM DICTIONARY.com (similar in Webster's)

LAME DUCK
n.

1. An elected officeholder or group continuing in office during the period between failure to win an election and the inauguration of a successor.
2. An officeholder who has chosen not to run for reelection or is ineligible for reelection.
3. An ineffective person; a weakling.

So, you're both right. I've heard LAME DUCK used many times to refer to a politician in his last term. And I agree we can only hope he takes his false credit for the Middle East peace and does nothing further to spiral us toward violence, world hatred, and embarrassment.
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notehead
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Post Number: 2037
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of polls...

bbcpoll
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Reflective
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Post Number: 734
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 8:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mexico - 49 % worse. That's it. Close the southern border, so even an enchilada can't sneak in.
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sbenois
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 8:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The period between a new President being elected and taking office is called an interregnum.
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Innisowen
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Post Number: 409
Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, and literally, an "interregnum" is the period between the reign of a previous king (having died or abdicated) and the next king (having not yet acceded to the throne). I guess we may be able to apply the term to our current King George's reign.
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ML
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Post Number: 2291
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's why you need to look at a range of polls. Mr. Janay's Gallup Poll citation is starting to look like an anomaly. Gallup's latest approval poll has Bush at 49%, basically the same as every other polling unit.

Don't believe me? take a look here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/bush_ja.html
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themp
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Post Number: 1474
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I mean, what's to like with this guy?
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notehead
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Post Number: 2052
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 7:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He uses special words and phrases that have been carefully selected by his handlers, and repeats them constantly. That's quite effective with mouth breathers.
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cjc
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Post Number: 3133
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 8:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mouth breathers only respond to empty promises of a better life through government largesse at the expense of others who are painted as holding them back. That's not Bush's constituency.
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Innisowen
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Post Number: 414
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 9:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bush stays on message, and is well trained to do so. Uses key phrases that his handlers know will pander to many citizens' baser instincts. He winds up saying nothing of substance, but gosh darn it, it sounds so committed and sincere to the naive ear.

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