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ina
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Username: Ina

Post Number: 169
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 2:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From the South Asia Tribune:
[The] Pakistan Army has publicly admitted paying Al Qaeda over half a million dollars in the most bizarre deal it has ever made with militant Waziristan fighters, [who have been] battling the Army and the US forces in the rugged terrain bordering Afghanistan for months...

...General Hussain said the the payments were part of a peace deal signed on Monday with tribesmen, but the public admission that money had been paid to be transferred to Al Qaeda stunned analysts and diplomatic observers in Islamabad.

Also, Pakistan's Daily Times had reported earlier that the ceremony for this "peace deal" was marked by "Taliban militants shouting `Death to America'"


The Daily Times editorial board was critical of the deal:

It sounded very much like the "peace" ceremony last year with Nek Muhammad, the Wazir "Taliban commander" with Al Qaeda connections ...

...But where is the honour of the government of Pakistan and how has it redeemed it in the long drawn out "war with Al Qaeda" in the Tribal Areas?

The "deal" with Nek Muhammad fell through before the ink was dry on it and the man had finally to be killed with a missile, but not before he became a `hero' of sorts despite his not so honourable personal profile in the area where he operated.

So, you can see why Dubya said just a few weeks ago that:

[The] Pakistan government has been aggressive in pursuit of al Qaeda targets in Waziristan.

And I appreciate the work of President Musharraf.

He came the other day, on a Saturday morning to the White House and it was an opportunity to thank him once again for some of the bold steps he's taken.

If this wasn't ridiculous enough, it gets worse.

While four wanted militants accepted the payoff, a fifth rejected it, Abdullah Mehsud. The South Asia Tribune called him the "main militant rebel".

The "main militant rebel" was actually in custody at Gitmo for two years. He was released last year.

According to NBC News, It's unclear whether Mehsud was a hardcore militant who tricked the US into releasing him, or if he was radicalized at Gitmo and became hardcore upon release.

So in recent days, we have our main War on Terror ally paying off Al Qaeda, while being snubbed by a former prisoner.

We have North Korea getting nukes while we sat idly by.

We have the likelihood that the Administration delayed revealing until after the election what the FAA knew about potential suicide hijackings before 9/11.

We have a newly revealed Richard Clarke memo, showing that Condi lied when she said "no Al Qaeda threat was turned over to the new administration"

But leaving aside all that, the War on Terror is going just fine. We got 'em on the run.
http://www.liberaloasis.com/archives/020605.htm#021105

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Robert Livingston
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Username: Rob_livingston

Post Number: 845
Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 2:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right, the FAA got warned, so it stands to reason Condi was lying through her gap teeth during the hearings. Either that, or the FAA got notice but not the National Security Advisor.
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Sgt. Pepper
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Username: Jjkatz

Post Number: 668
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 3:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The FAA got notice and the National Security Advisor got a promotion for doing nothing about it.

slapping forehead yet again....
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Dave
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Username: Dave

Post Number: 5257
Registered: 4-1998


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 3:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rice definitely lied, but there's no impeachment proceding in place for appointed officials.
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ashear
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Post Number: 1683
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 3:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Article II, Section 4.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
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Sgt. Pepper
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Username: Jjkatz

Post Number: 670
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Problem is I don't think incompetence is a crime. Lying to the 9/11 Commission -- maybe.
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Albatross
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Post Number: 488
Registered: 9-2004


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't they try to impeach Samuel Chase way back when for being a drunkard?

Luckily, the definition of 'high crimes and misdemeanors' has already been extended to lying under oath.
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Sgt. Pepper
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Username: Jjkatz

Post Number: 672
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's been extended further than that -- to lying under oath during a deposition for a civil case unrelated to the office of President, the matter of which concerned an event alleged to have occurred long before the President became President, and as part of a line of questioning that was subsequently ruled irrelevant to the case by the judge.

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Strawberry Alarm Clock
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Post Number: 4482
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

let's briefly outline the reaction to this thread post.

I'm a lib and I hate Bush
I'm a lib and I hate Bush
I'm a lib and I hate Rice.
I hate America
I hate freedom
I hate Bush.
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Rastro
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Username: Rastro

Post Number: 701
Registered: 5-2004


Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 4:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You forgot the part about Pakistan (our "ally in the war on terror") paying off the people who flew planes into the WTC and Pentagon.

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