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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 1067 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 5:03 pm: |
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as a news producer maybe you can tell us. How many members of your organization have press passes issued under assumed names? |
   
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4492 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 5:25 pm: |
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It's not as hard as you think to get press credentials. Heck look at the NY Times reporter. And for the record, each and every Presidential event I've covered in my 15 years includes a pretty substantial physical search. This is more common then a serious background check, if in fact the outlet is considered legit in some way, shape of form. (Keep in mind the National Enquirer is considered legit) As a matter of fact at my most recent event I stood there for 20 minutes while Ben Stein of all people received a head to toe search. If an outlet that has received clearance chooses to send an individual to an event, there is no way the President's people can do anything to stop that person. This unless there's clear information the person is a threat. You have heard of freedom of the press, right? And as McClellan said:, "Bush did not know who Mr. Guckert was. Mr. McClellan said that Mr. Guckert entered the White House under his real name and "like anyone else, showed that he was representing a news organization that published regularly, and so he was cleared two years ago to receive daily passes, just like many others are." End of story and like I said if this is all the libs have, this is indeed very sad for them. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 1068 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 5:31 pm: |
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if McClellan knew this guy was named Guckert, why did he go along with the "Gannon" ruse? This incident, along with the "journalists" who were paid to endorse Republican ideas, are clear examples of crossing the line into propaganda territory. And frankly, if you're a journalist with 15 years experience and you don't see anything wrong with what Guckert/Gannon and the White House did (and you're not just playing devil's advocate here), it speaks volumes about the depths to which journalistic ethics in this country have sunk. |
   
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4493 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 6:17 pm: |
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Not to worried about how Guckert's stunt will effect the media. Heck, you really think he influenced CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, FOX , etc. etc. As I've said, it's an incident that happens from time to time. To call it propagana, as I've clearly pointed out is reaching big time for something not there. Heck, imagine what you libs would have done if the President had banned this guy before he made his dopey comment. You can't win when it comes to libs because they're all full of . That's why it's important that we keep beating them during the elections instead. |
   
Debby
Citizen Username: Debby
Post Number: 1664 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 9:02 pm: |
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Straw was covering Presidential press conferences when he was in college?! Talk about "reaching big time for something not there. "
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notehead
Supporter Username: Notehead
Post Number: 2036 Registered: 5-2001

| Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2005 - 9:39 pm: |
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I'm sure that nobody knows more about "reaching big time for something not there" than Straw.  |
   
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4494 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 7:15 am: |
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15 YRS AGO I WAS IN COLLEGE? Deb sweety, I know you have the hots for me, but I'm older then you think. Thanks for the compliment though.. xoxoxo Does your husband know about your Straw fetish? |
   
Sgt. Pepper
Citizen Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 677 Registered: 12-2003

| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 9:52 am: |
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And it took a full 20 minutes to pat down Ben Stein? What did they do, a full cavity search while you stood there watching and waiting?
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Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 1069 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 10:05 am: |
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straw, Just for my clarification, if planting one phony journalist as a shill in a press conference is no big deal, at what point does it become important? One ersatz questioner is ok, but 3 turns the entire press conference into a joke? Or is it 5? Or is it only if the faux reporters comprise a majority among the attendees? If so how many attendees do you need at a press conference to have a quorum? I need to know this stuff, because if the Gannon/Guckert thing passes muster among other journalists like yourself, then it will probably continue in the future, not just with the Bush Administration, but others that follow. As a consumer of news product, I need to be able to determine at what point presidntial news conferences and White House briefings become a complete sham. |
   
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4496 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 10:13 am: |
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as I said, now a non story..past tense. No longer a concern among Americans with common sense. just something else libs can waste their times worrying about. Stein kept setting off the wand...that they take seriously.
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Madden 11
Citizen Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 622 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 10:25 am: |
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IOKIYAR. |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 1070 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:02 am: |
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you're right Madden. silly me, I had forgotten. never mind |
   
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4497 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 11:56 am: |
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Question: Why does it bother you libs so much that I make more money then you, have a superior job and live in a much nicer home? Also, it seems to bother you libs that I happen to know some very famous and powerful people and those people I vote for usually get elected. Is there some rule that you have to be a liberal half witted loser to post on MOL? Don't think so.. LIBS, DUMB, OUT OF TOUCH AND OVERWEIGHT.
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Nohero
Citizen Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4331 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:15 pm: |
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For some reason, this cartoon just came to mind -
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Strawberry Alarm Clock
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4498 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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good point, In other words I'm dealing with a bunch of animals. I get it thanks! |
   
Nohero
Citizen Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4332 Registered: 10-1999

| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:23 pm: |
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No, but you get another guess!  |
   
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
Citizen Username: Casey
Post Number: 1071 Registered: 8-2003

| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:24 pm: |
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I don't know about you, but I'm not enough of an idiot to make assumptions about the occupations or financial status of people if I don't know who they are. |
   
Debby
Citizen Username: Debby
Post Number: 1666 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:33 pm: |
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Why are you lying, Straw? Oh, wait...nevermind. |
   
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Supporter Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4499 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:36 pm: |
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Debby's just jealous because we used to have these huge bashes with a ton of VIP'S and never once invited her. As my wife used to say, if they saw her there they'd try to order a drink from her.  |
   
SoOrLady
Citizen Username: Soorlady
Post Number: 1771 Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:54 pm: |
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Dave - I think Straw's alarm just rang for a time out. Bad form, Straw... very bad form! |