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Strawberry Alarm Clock
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Post Number: 4477
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not a fan of Ritter but his opinions are internationally known (though I'd hesitate to say respected). In any case, I'D HAVE TO SAY HATS OFF TO PAUL FOR GETTING HIM TO SPEAK HERE IN MAPLEWOOD..Nice job Paul.
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Ginny Brown
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm looking forward to his visit to Maplewood. Scott Ritter has been correct about everything that has happened in this war so far. Tragically, he predicts the election will lead to civil war. Scott Ritter, like any brave citizen who dares to speak against this administration, got personally attacked in a dispicable fashion. Is he convicted of anything? It is nice to see him continue to speak out. I'm sure the Republicans will keep doing the same tired character assasination attacks to avoid looking at facts. He is a Republican and a marine, in case anyone does not know that. I look forward to learning more and reading his book. Thanks, Paul
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lumpynose
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 7:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An accusation does not equal a fact. That is what the courts decide.

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Phenixrising
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Post Number: 407
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 8:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Paul…

As word spreads about Scott Ritter coming to Maplewood, I have a feeling that this event will be packed. Can Maplewood Library accomodate the possibility of an overwheming response?

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Strawberry Alarm Clock
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Post Number: 4478
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 9:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great point.

Might I suggest the Woman's Club. (just don't tell Ritter that means the women are over 18)
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Sgt. Pepper
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will advance tickets be needed or it is just a matter of getting there before the room is filled to capacity?
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Paul Surovell
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Scott Ritter event is free, although we'll pass the hat to defray expenses. No advance tickets, although we'll probably reserve a few seats for the media, if they express an interest.

I suggest people come early because we'll be starting promptly at 7:30, since we have to be out of the room by 9:00.

We've had meetings at the Library with about 100 people before that did not fill the room. I'm estimating we'll get about 125 for this event. We're not promoting it outside the Maplewood and South Orange area.

If we have to turn people away, we'll try to reschedule a follow-up at a larger venue.

I contacted the Women's Club, but they're not available on Tuesdays.









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cjc
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ginny is right. Scott hasn't been convicted of anything. Neither was OJ.

What was the line Scott used in that Burger King parking lot? Anyone know? When asked about it on TV, he refused to answer. He was totally, totally innocent, and I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for it all.
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Paul Surovell
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Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cjc:

Your attempt at analogy is misinformed.

While it's true that Scott hasn't been convicted of anything, the point is that he hasn't been accused of anything either.


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Michael Janay
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://msnbc.msn.com/local/wnyt/m264375.asp

ALBANY, NY, Jan. 20 - Scott Ritter of Delmar is well known internationally as an outspoken, former U.N. weapons inspector. Now more information is coming to light about Ritter's past and a disturbing arrest.
More stories from NewsChannel 13



Image: Lindsay Cohen
By Lindsay Cohen
COLONIE POLICE CANNOT comment on whether or not they actually arrested Ritter on charges he solicited an underage girl over the Internet. They say this is because if an arrest was made, it was sealed during court proceedings.
"Well generally speaking, if during the course of a court proceeding the defense asks for a sealing order based on a plea to a very lesser charge, a court can issue that under the CPL 160-50, which basically seals the entire record from the point of its start to the point of its finish," Deputy Police Chief Steve Heider explained.
The Daily Gazette first reported over the weekend that Ritter -- whose full name is William Scott Ritter -- was arrested in June 2001.
The New York Daily News further reported that Ritter's arrest was part of an Internet sting. The report said he was arrested for having sexual discussions over the Internet with a person he thought was an underage girl. This individual turned out to be an undercover police officer.
Both reports say that Ritter later struck a deal with Assistant District Attorney Cynthia Preiser that allowed the case to be dismissed and the records sealed. The reports also say Preiser was fired on Friday for failing to inform Albany County District Attorney Paul Clyne of the case.
However, NewsChannel 13 reported in June 2001 about an arrest of a 39-year-old William Ritter of Delmar on charges he tried to lure a 16-year-old girl he met on the Internet to a Burger King in Menands. According to police, the intent of that meeting was so that she could watch him perform sexual acts on himself.
At that time police said William Ritter was arrested before doing anything, but was facing multiple misdemeanor charges for trying to solicit an underage girl for sexual reasons.
Ritter's attorney, Norah Murphy, confirmed that he was arrested in the town of Colonie in June 2001.
Ritter has not returned calls for comment. His wife told NewsChannel 13 on Sunday that she had no comment on these charges.

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Not accused of anything... right.
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tjohn
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These allegations may or may not be true. What is true, however, is that a statistically remarkable number of people who criticize the status quo are found to have personal failings ranging from schizophrenia to unacceptable sexual practices.

It seems like the first response of the powers that be when facing criticism is to immediately attack the character of the critic.
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Phenixrising
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems like the first response of the powers that be when facing criticism is to immediately attack the character of the critic.

DITTO!
Innocent until proven guilty. Isn't that part of our justice system?
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notehead
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not for Ritter, not for Clinton, not for the detainees at Gitmo...
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Dave
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You no longer have to do anything wrong to be destroyed, just accused of it.
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Michael Janay
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Post Number: 1574
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or arrested for it... twice.

And then plea bargain the charges...
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Strawberry Alarm Clock
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ritter a very sick man. Brilliant but obviously not someone you'd invite into your house with your young daughter home..
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Spanish Inquisitor
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 1:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The other half of the story is how the Patriot Act enabled law enforcement to track (and trap) political opponents. Arrest = Guilty in most minds. That's how it worked in Nazi Germany, too.
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Michael Janay
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Post Number: 1575
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 2:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So you're saying it was the Patriot Act that made Scott Ritter arrange to meet a 14 year old and a 16 year old for sex?

Yeah, I'm so sure that the Colonie NY DA decided to run the sex sting just so she could catch Ritter.
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tjohn
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 5:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This character assasination tactic predates the Patriot Act by a couple of thousand years at least. I recall the cause of a scientist who raised concerns about heavy metal poisoning around the Oak Ridge nuclear research facility and officials were quick to trot out charges of mental instability. In this case, it was particularly pathetic sinces his charges could have been proved/disproved by other environmental scientists.
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Paul Surovell
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Posted on Monday, February 14, 2005 - 6:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael and Strawberry:

Scott Ritter is not accused of anything. The case against him -- whatever it was -- was dismissed.

If you have any evidence that Scott Ritter is either accused or guilty of anything let's see the evidence.

So far you've provided none. Zero.

Your false allegations that Ritter is either accused or guilty of anything immoral or illegal amount to scurrilous character assassination which is an insult to basic American values of fair play and honesty.

However, your persistence in insulting American values and fair play reveals an unwillingness -- or perhaps a fear -- on your part to confront Scott Ritter's record of service to this country and his impeccable track record of analysis and criticism of the US policies in Iraq.

So the more you continue with your slurs and false innuendoes, the more you expose the desperation and bankruptcy of your position.

If you have a problem with Scott Ritter's criticism of the Bush administration (or the Clinton administration) let's hear what it is.

If you have a problem with the basic American principle that when a case is dismissed it's nothing, it's a nonentity, it's erased -- then you've got a problem with this country and everything that it stands for.

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