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ril
Citizen
Username: Ril
Post Number: 293
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:36 am: | 
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Recall a few months ago, when NJT wanted to increase the step-up fare (the fee you pay if you have a Hoboken ticket and go to/fom Penn Station NY instead) from 85 cents to $2.50? At the time, in response to a deluge of protest from riders and from our local officials, NJT dropped the idea.
But now, with the proposed fare increase, not only will that charge be reinstated, it will be $3.10!
Please, if this issue affects you at all, take the time to email or call NJT, or attend one of the public meetings, to protest this excessive penalty charge.
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LilLB
Citizen
Username: Lillb
Post Number: 425
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:40 am: |
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What is their reasoning behind such a steep charge. That does seem excessive. |
Mark Fuhrman
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1322
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:44 am: |
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Perhaps they are trying to fund the new tunnel with the step up fees? 
I am being cynical, by the way. I can't think of any other rational nexus between such a short difference in travel distance (Hoboken vs. NY Penn) and such an exhorbitant cost. Surely it is not track charges, Amtrak gate fees, or operating differences between Hoboken and NY Penn--they can't be THAT high. |
ronzio
Citizen
Username: Ronzio
Post Number: 96
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:52 am: |
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I read an article in the Ledger today, that stated a transit watchgroup proposed it, suggesting that those of us who commute into the city can bear the brunt of the fare increases more so than those who commute within NJ. Actually, this group proposed an even steeper increase, I believe. It will be interesting to see what we get stuck with. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3153
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:23 pm: |
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How much of NJ Transit is subsidized by the rest of the country? For instance, when you buy an Amtrak ticket for $300 along the NE Corridor, I've read that the real cost is about $600 but $300 is paid for by revenues apart from those actually using the service. |
Bobkat
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7648
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:31 pm: |
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I would love to know how the difference in fairs between Hoboken and Penn Station are figured.
The fare sheet indicates the difference between a one way full fare ticket from those points from Maplewood is $.95 while the difference from Dover is $2.60.
Cjc, don't worry about it. NJ is still a donor state where our tax revenues sent to Washington subsidize all those Red Staters you love so much.  |
wnb
Citizen
Username: Wnb
Post Number: 223
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:35 pm: |
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NJT has to pay Amtrak to run trains on the line going into NY Penn Station, but not Hoboken station. Could that have something to do with it?
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ril
Citizen
Username: Ril
Post Number: 295
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 9:47 am: |
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When I asked NJT about this a few months ago, I got some convoluted explanation about how they were just matching the fare stepup that the other lines already pay (which, if you look at fares for those lines, is more in line with the actual difference.) NJT wants, they said, to make it "easier for the conductors." |
Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 5001
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 2:00 pm: |
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One of the things NJT could consider is switching to a zone based system which would enable the holder of a monthy ticket to travel on any bus or train line as long as the total distance was not greater than the number of zones reflected on the monthly ticket (Maplewood to Hoboken for example is a six zone ride).
An interstate surcharge, as now, would be extra but should be no greater than the number of zones plus the standard interstate surcharge amount. |
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