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sylvester the investor
Citizen
Username: Mummish
Post Number: 14
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 7:21 pm: | 
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I deserve the freedom to walk into the post office without the harrasment of some freak spewing out garbage about Bush and then asking for donations "to send Bush to a mental institution".
Whether or not you support Bush we should not have to be subject to this lunacy.
If anyone needs to be put in a mental institution it is the guy who stands out in 20 degree weather babblinb on about how low Bush's IQ is, or better yet the idiots who actually put money in this guy's coffee can (get a clue he's out there buying crack with your money right now).
If you are going to support anti-bush movements at least send your money to the hopeless DNC instead of putting it in this freaks pocket. |
Paul Surovell
Supporter
Username: Paulsurovell
Post Number: 247
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 7:36 pm: |
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These individuals were ranting about the Queen of England a couple of years ago and prior to that they went around with the same kind of lurid signs and literature saying "Feed Jane Fonda to the Whales."
The only purpose they serve that I can see is to make Bush look good. We're in a serious region of smoke and mirrors and hidden agendas here. |
Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 629
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 9:35 pm: |
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Is this the Lyndon Larouche guy? I wouldn't let him get to you. I'm no Bush fan, but Larouche? Come on. |
sbenois
Citizen
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 13219
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 9:43 pm: |
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I thought they were pretty amusing. They didn't like it too much when after asking me to sign their petition to "put Bush in a straight jacket" I responded by saying that they ought to get LaRouche in one first. |
Mark Fuhrman
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1328
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 7:04 am: |
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Sbenois--LOL--I told them the same thing! These morons were good for one thing. My kids thought they were losers, so we had a long discussion on the ride home about cults, why losers join them, etc. |
mem
Citizen
Username: Mem
Post Number: 4637
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 10:07 am: |
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I heard this once, "Joining a cult is the last stop on the liberal train".
Might be true in this case. |
Albatross
Citizen
Username: Albatross
Post Number: 512
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 1:00 pm: |
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I will not tease the Lyndon LaRouche supporters, I will not tease the Lyndon LaRouche supporters, I will not...
I was walking towards the post office on Saturday. A middle aged man passed by mutterring, "Check y'selves in, you crazy [trailed off]" |
gemini
Citizen
Username: Gemini
Post Number: 374
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 2:56 pm: |
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Horrible to spew this stuff to me while with my kids. I hope they don't have kids. They are a sad, sad bunch. |
Chronic Pain
Citizen
Username: Chronic_pain
Post Number: 18
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 5:42 pm: |
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this group is no joke, and it's a disgrace that they feel comfortable enough in maplewood to set up a table on Sat morn in front of the post office.
In its 2004 assessment of presidential candidates, the National Right to Life Committee gave LaRouche a grade of 75% and declared that he is "pro-life in every way (against euthanasia, capital punishment, etc)."
LaRouche was present in Boston during the 2004 Democratic National Convention but did not attend the convention itself. He held a media conference in which he declared his support for John Kerry and pledged to mobilize his organization to help defeat George W. Bush in the November presidential election. He also waged a campaign, begun in October 2002 [19] (http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/020922_cheney_must_resign.html), to have Dick Cheney resign, or be dumped from the Republican ticket.
A significant change in the LaRouche organization since LaRouche was released from prison has been the development of the "LaRouche Youth Movement" (LYM) beginning in 1999. The recruitment of young people in the 18-25 year-old age bracket has reportedly brought more members into the LaRouche organization than at any time in the past.
International publicity about LaRouche was sparked in 2003 and 2004 after Jeremiah Duggan, a Jewish student from the UK who was attending a conference and "cadre school" in Germany organized by the Schiller Institute and LaRouche Youth Movement, died in mysterious circumstances in Wiesbaden. LaRouche publications claim Duggan was suicidal, but a British court ruled out suicide, and decided that Duggan died while "in a state of terror". [20] (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46883-2004Oct20.html)
from wikipedia, read the whole thing.
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TomR
Citizen
Username: Tomr
Post Number: 487
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 12:26 am: |
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To those posters who believe that people shouldn't be permitted to speak their minds (of whatever degree of soundness) in a public forum; I gotta ask:
With which other troublesome RIGHTS can we do away?
TomR |
Albatross
Citizen
Username: Albatross
Post Number: 516
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 1:03 am: |
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Let's keep the right to bear arms, but all the rest are cumbersome barriers to the true unified state. :-) |
Sgt. Pepper
Citizen
Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 698
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 9:47 am: |
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Yeah, that nasty ol' First Amendment is such a nuisance sometimes. |
lumpyhead
Citizen
Username: Lumpyhead
Post Number: 1122
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 10:03 am: |
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That nut job is at it again? Geez, he's preaching to the choir around here. I say let's send him up to Chatham to recruit some new members and film it! |
sylvester the investor
Citizen
Username: Mummish
Post Number: 15
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 10:39 am: |
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"With which other troublesome RIGHTS can we do away?"
How about all of them!
When your (the collective your) freedom of speech incroaches upon my freedom to move freely and conduct my life without harrasment then your freedom of speech is no longer granted. Go spew the garbage in a field somewhere. Come on now, even the liberals don't want to hear this garbage.
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Albatross
Citizen
Username: Albatross
Post Number: 517
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 10:57 am: |
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I'm going to assume that because there's no smiley face after your post, you are serious.
If that's how you feel, then you can move out of the U.S., because last I checked, these rights were the absolute foundation of this country.
You can't simply withdraw somebody's rights because you feel harassed by their opinion. That's an extraordinarily subjective system. Moreover, how much are YOUR rights actually encroached upon? They don't restrict your freedom of movement; move a couple of feet to either side of the table. They ask you to support LaRouche but if you ignore them they ignore you. Your complaints vis a vis these peoples' speech are petty.
It's the same for the broader issue: just because YOU don't like something isn't grounds for the revokation of freedom of speech. That's what the Bill of Rights is designed to prevent, unilateral restriction based on subjective likes and dislikes.
Regardless of whether or not liberals (or anyone else for that matter) want to hear it, they still have an absolute right to their speech.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire |
Mark Fuhrman
Citizen
Username: Mfpark
Post Number: 1333
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 11:43 am: |
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Albie! Great post. They have as much right to state their beliefs on a public thoroughfare as I do to disagree with them. So long as they do not obviously interfere with someone else's rights (blocking physical passage, advocating or using violence, shouting down others--all of which LaRouchies have done in the past) let them be. Their own idiocy is exposed to anyone who takes a minute to listen to them, and this is the best way to deal with it. |
cjc
Citizen
Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3161
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 11:47 am: |
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Great. Let's continue this and revoke Campaign Finance Reform which was designed to eliminate those nasty issue ads that incumbants didn't like. |
mtierney
Citizen
Username: Mtierney
Post Number: 769
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 4:31 pm: |
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If you search the attic, this topic came up more than once around December. Biggest complaint I had at the time was not the guy's right to free speech, but the way it was expressed.
The hand-lettered, hate-filled remarks on the signs were vulgar and crude. (I understand that such language passes for "smart" in some circles.)The guy was extremely rude if you made the mistake of engaging in conversation!
I am worried that Larouche's people think Maplewood is good turf for their man.
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Nohero
Citizen
Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4353
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 4:44 pm: |
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Well, since common sense doesn't seem to be a hallmark of the Larouchskies, I wouldn't worry about their opinion of Maplewood. |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 5605
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 11:03 pm: |
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TomR, I had the same thought at first, but then I noticed that no one was actually calling for the revocation of the right to free speech. Instead, they were wishing the speakers would just go away. That's fair enough, isn't it? I believe in free speech, but I don't have to like all of it. I don't favor changing any laws because someone says stuff I don't like. |
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