| Author | Message | ||
     lumpyhead Citizen Username: Lumpyhead Post Number: 1129 Registered: 3-2002 |
No, I am not. I just hang around with lots of them and I am tired of sitting by my lonesome healthy self. St. James Gate is a business, why can't you leave it up to them? If you don't like smoke, DON'T GO THERE. Why is this so difficult to comprehend? | ||
| jamie Moderator Username: Jamie Post Number: 785 Registered: 6-2001  |
Ok, where should i go locally? I LOVE the pub - I want to go to the pub - I live steps away from it. And I do go, but I hate the smoke! Your solution is "don't go there" - the health of the people that live here is a non-issue? Why can't you comprehend that smoking is a wrong thing to have in a public place? | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 4651 Registered: 5-2001  |
Jamie, John Mead and most of his family all smoke. They'll probably be the last ones to adopt any non-smoking laws. Have you asked him about better ventilation? | ||
| Brett Citizen Username: Bmalibashksa Post Number: 1475 Registered: 7-2003 |
I agree that smoking should be banned in public places, but the gate is a private establishment. | ||
| jamie Moderator Username: Jamie Post Number: 786 Registered: 6-2001 |
I don't think most of the Meades smoke. And I'm pretty sure John doesn't like smoke in general - he'd be all for a statewide ban. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 4653 Registered: 5-2001 |
??? John smokes. I know this, ask my lil sister! | ||
| lumpyhead Citizen Username: Lumpyhead Post Number: 1130 Registered: 3-2002 |
This is about Jamie wanting to go to a smoke free pub that he lives near forgetting the fact that it is a private establishment. Personally I could care less what St. James does. I don't smoke and I don't go there, he does. We should also have them ban the Fish and Chips due to the high cholesterol content. We are all paying for health care. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 4654 Registered: 5-2001 |
I'm allergic to chips! Ban them! | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 4655 Registered: 5-2001 |
Just checked - John jr may not smoke anymore. Seriously, they really should get better ventilation. | ||
| lumpyhead Citizen Username: Lumpyhead Post Number: 1131 Registered: 3-2002 |
When they do ban smoking at the pub we can have a poster of Jamie on window so the smokers outside know who to thank!  | ||
| thoughtful Citizen Username: Thoughtful Post Number: 154 Registered: 6-2001 |
Don't forget to ban the use of perfume and cologne while you're at it. Many people have sensitivity to fragrances. And in the interests of making everyone healthier by making sure that no one does anything that could possibly endanger the health of another patron, let's make a law that punishes those who don't wash their hands after using the bathroom. Not just employees--everyone. And let's put a person in the bathroom to check. That way we can put more people to work while we combat communicable diseases. And let's ban chewing gum. I hate it when people chew with their mouths open or crack their gum. And let's ban Cowboy fans, too. Because they tend to raise my blood pressure--and that's not healthy. | ||
| Tom Reingold Supporter Username: Noglider Post Number: 5618 Registered: 1-2003  |
thoughtful, I don't think the slippery slope argument is useful here. We do have to draw the line somewhere. I'm not sure if I favor banning smoking in restaurants, but there are pollutants we should protect the public from in private establishments that are open to the public. Just because we can't protect from all of them doesn't mean we shouldn't ban one or more. Some are worse than others. | ||
| Michael Janay Citizen Username: Childprotect Post Number: 1600 Registered: 1-2003  |
Jaime, There is not one, not one death that has been causally tied to second hand smoke. "thetruth" is almost all lies. Not one. I don't smoke, and smoke bothers me, and I'd rather patronize smoke free places, but I do understand the real medical risks for secondhand smoke, and there really aren't any. That is there really aren't any unless you are exposed to thick second hand smoke 24/7, and when I say thick I mean thicker than smoking a ciggarette yourself. | ||
| Dave Moderator Username: Dave Post Number: 5349 Registered: 4-1998  |
I'd prefer smokeless places, but don't have a strong opinion about it. I wonder if those living above the pub would be affected by outdoor smokers in the summer. | ||
| mem Citizen Username: Mem Post Number: 4656 Registered: 5-2001 |
Compromise - the pub invests in better ventilation. | ||
| thoughtful Citizen Username: Thoughtful Post Number: 155 Registered: 6-2001 |
Tom, Yes, there are pollutants all around us. Smoking is public enemy number one, though, largely because it's such an obvious act. But that doesn't necssarily mean that it's the most hazardous activity around. Why are we picking on the smokers so much? | ||
| Dave Moderator Username: Dave Post Number: 5350 Registered: 4-1998 |
Because smoking involves others in the activity. | ||
| jamie Moderator Username: Jamie Post Number: 787 Registered: 6-2001 |
ok, I guess I'm the only one who thinks smoking is bad in a "pub"lic place. I'll just go to NYC, thankey. | ||
| thoughtful Citizen Username: Thoughtful Post Number: 156 Registered: 6-2001 |
That's because smokers are so friendly, I guess, that they involve others. Why protect the non smokers from the smokers? A person lives in New Jersey, eats fried food, doesn't exercise, and drinks to excess, but we have to protect them from cigarette smoke? Free the smokers! Maybe it should be like adult swim: once an hour, every non-smoker has to leave the bar. | ||
| flugermongers Citizen Username: Flugermongers Post Number: 377 Registered: 5-2001 |
cmontyburns, Why shouldn't smoking be illegal? I can't walk down the street and punch someone, but I can walk down the street and blow smoke in someone's general direction. It's disgusting. Furthermore, if we can't drink on the street, or smoke other substances on the street, why is smoking tobacco still tolerated? If someone wants to smoke cigarettes, let them do it on their own property. |
