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notehead
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Post Number: 2108
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 9:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just fills you with pride, doesn't it?

Eleven local officials in northern New Jersey -- including three small-town mayors -- have been charged in a federal corruption sting.

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ML
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 9:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you can look at it as discouraging that so many officials were engaging in corruption, or you can be encouraged that contractors and other citizens of NJ don't believe corruption should be business as usual. obviously a bunch of people went to the FBI and helped set up this sting. that's the way to stop corruption -- for business people and others to stand up and say this is not acceptable, and turn these guys in to law enforcement.
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jet
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Post Number: 763
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 9:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

During the last 2 yrs 76 NJ officals have been indicted . All of them were brought up on charges by Federal prosecutors. What are the NJ state & county prosecutors , that we pay for, doing ? Get rid of county government . GRIP Get Rid of Incumbent Politicians !
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themp
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently the Monmouth Co Prosecutor was interfering in the investigation...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/24/nyregion/24jersey.html?
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themp
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Post Number: 1528
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about a mandatory minimum of like 10 years for any elected or appointed county official convicted of corruption for personal gain?
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jet
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Post Number: 764
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These clowns will not even pass a watered down Pay to Play bill. You actualy think they will increase the penalty ? The arsonest are running the firehouse . GRIP.
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Rastro
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How long until the Monmouth prosecutor is found to be involved?
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malone
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were these mostly Rublicans, mostly Democrats, or was it a mixed bag of crooks?
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jet
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Post Number: 766
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 1:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mixed bag , I think it was 8 R 3 D , but it is Monmouth co. .Whats the difference anyway a thief is thief . You get in the political biz the county bosses tell you what you are. The Feds got rid of the Gambinos & that half gang from Bergen Co the DeCavwhatevers only to have the void filled in by these lowlifes . These guys were loan sharking " the platform of racketteering" I hope they rot in Rahway in GP.
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lumpyhead
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 1:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If thats whats going on in Monmouth County, I shudder to think what goes on in Essex.
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doublea
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 2:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a house in Monmouth County. The county prosecutor said two (three) years ago when the Ocean Township mayor/Asbury Park business manager was indicted that Monmouth County was relatively corruption free. At that time, a lot of people knew differently.

I don't care if Chris Christie has a political agenda or what. Without his perseverance, nothing would have been done to prosecute those guilty of corruption in N.J.

Christie once said something like "I don't know what's wrong with you people in New Jersey - you just keep electing these people." He also said the first thing that has to be done is to get rid of the thinking that corruption exists and it's just the way things are. Sadly, that has been the feeling and philosophy in N.J. for far too long. That's how the politicians (and some non-politicians, e.g. Kushner) have been able to get away with it. It's just become too easy and accepted.
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doublea
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Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 2:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Incidentally, the joke out on the street is Peter "see no evil" Harvey was too busy getting his late fees back from Blockbuster to go after the corrupt politicians.
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cjc
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Post Number: 3191
Registered: 8-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

doublea is right on. The key here is corruption and the acceptance of it in New Jersey. Same with high taxes and multiple levels of government both at the county level and that each little nook of a community that gets it's own little government in the name of local control. This isn't a republican or democrat issue as both parties are playing the public for everything they can get out them. The parties are both parties of government and the opportunity that government presents them. The people of New Jersey just swallow it and continue to support the parties and apparatus that provides all this opportunity for being ripped off.

And all the while, the stereotype of New Jersey accurately bumps along from one generation to another.

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