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Joan
Supporter
Username: Joancrystal
Post Number: 5085
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 8:23 pm: | 
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This could be a very interesting primary. Vic, Fred and Ian are all known entities with track records on the TC which are well known to anyone who follows local issues to even a minimum extent. It will be interesting to see if any other democrats thinking of running for the TC this year will decide not to run given the heavy opposition and fierce campaigning one can expect during this year's primary election.
In reading the above posts, I would conclude that the major danger all three candidates face is that people will judge them on what they have done in the past but give little thought to where they see the town going in the future. I think we should all focus closely on where each candidate intends to go from here.
Based strictly on their prior records, I would say that Fred and Ian have a clear advantage over Vic partly becuase they are presently in office and many people who usually vote in the primary election think the town is being well managed at the present time (all things considered) and partly because there are a great many people who usually vote in the primary election who have a long and bitter memory of Vic's handling of Reval, Police Department relations, and the town divisiveness which was so prevalent at that time.
Whether Fred and Ian saw the fruits of Vic's labor come to fruition during their watch or took the steps needed to build on and bring about the improvements we have seen in the past three years really won't be an issue.
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trapper
Citizen
Username: Trapper
Post Number: 125
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 8:28 pm: |
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The Democrats have 2 openings and 3 men want to fill the slots.
2 Majors are running, Vic Deluca and Fred Profeta, but they aren't running really agianst eachother.
It's Vic Deluca running against Ian Grodman who is sort of Fred but not really.
Vic Deluca lost last time so now he's running as sort of himself but really David Heumer who wants to be major.
So it's David Heumer running against Ian Grodman.
And they're all Democrats and we don't know if Republicans are running too.
Check please. |
Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 802
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 9:03 pm: |
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Thanks anon your analysis is sound.
Trapper, however, defies analysis and drives pollsters and political hacks crazy. |
ffof
Citizen
Username: Ffof
Post Number: 3402
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 10:29 pm: |
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trapper's been thinking like I have been thinking.
Also, Huemer would be an awful mayor. All nice nice no action. |
mplwdian
Citizen
Username: Mplwdian
Post Number: 58
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 4:40 pm: |
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Jeffl- You might like to see Huemer as mayor but it would be a terrible turn of events for the town. Huemer may be a nice guy, but he has produced nothing as a TC member. I can't name a single accomplishment. Nice doesn't qualify as a basis for being Mayor. Working tirelessly for the good of the town does. |
Strawman
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4616
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 5:13 pm: |
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You can't expect a bleeding heart liberal to do anything when it excludes raising taxes. David is hamstrung because his plans to fund Newark even more so through Maplewood have been rejected by the majority of citizens. (and he knows this) |
wharfrat
Citizen
Username: Wharfrat
Post Number: 1624
Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 5:44 pm: |
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Whose turn is it to wrestle the bong from Straw's blistered fingers?
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anon
Citizen
Username: Anon
Post Number: 1680
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 9:44 pm: |
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You're welcome, Reflective.
I have no idea what Trapper is talking about. |
Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7825
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 4:26 am: |
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the candidates who have the support of the local Democratic Committee seem to have an advantage in the primary. I think this was the case when Fred and Ian beat Vic and Jerry.
Watch for contested elections for District Leaders. Essentially, the Profetistas ran a grass roots campaign two years ago which allowed their supporters to gain control of the committee.
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ajc
Citizen
Username: Ajc
Post Number: 3582
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:45 am: |
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...the candidates who have the support of the local Democratic Committee seem to have an advantage in the primary."
Thanks Bob, that was my point... Yes, if Fred and Ian get their own line on the ballot, they would clearly have an advantage over Vic and company!
This is one of the main functions of the Maplewood Democratic County Committee, which gets the support of the Essex County Democratic Committee, the State Committee, and so on.
Running, as an insurgent is usually much more difficult, especially if one doesn’t have the firepower they have in Iraq... |
Lydia
Supporter
Username: Lydial
Post Number: 973
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 10:00 am: |
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Bob K -
Fred and Ian never (directly) ran against Vic and Jerry.
Kathy Leventhal and Ken Pettis ran and defeated Vic DeLuca and Jerry Ryan.
District Leader elections take place on even-numbered years - 2006 is next year for DL elections.
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Bob K
Supporter
Username: Bobk
Post Number: 7828
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 10:17 am: |
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Lydia, you are correct. I think the fact that two relative unknowns were able to defeat the incumbents does, however, reinforce my point about the importance of the Committee endorsement.
Does Vic have a running mate? |
paul vizzone
Citizen
Username: Bmx
Post Number: 4
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 11:05 am: |
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Noticably absent from Vic's run this year is a token partner. Is his strategy to divide the vote? |
Strawman
Supporter
Username: Strawberry
Post Number: 4618
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 3:40 pm: |
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Vic's running mate will be an African American woman TBA.. |
mtierney
Citizen
Username: Mtierney
Post Number: 793
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 4:57 pm: |
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Anybody know how the Grassroots branch of the Dems factors into all this speculation? |
Lydia
Supporter
Username: Lydial
Post Number: 974
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 6:04 pm: |
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I saw a "DeLuca for Township Committee" sign today on Springfield Avenue.
Guess that means "good Democrat" DeLuca is unofficially making it official*
*A little district leader humor for BobbestK
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Reflective
Citizen
Username: Reflective
Post Number: 806
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 8:44 pm: |
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Is the sign a recycle from an earlier campaign?
Was it posted in one of the 4,000 nail salons on SA?
Will the rite aid be the vic HQs?
Was the sign spotted on the east side or west side of SA? (Prospect being the dividing line.)
These are very important questions for our Maplewood's future.
And Lydia, are we certain that vic isn't really running for the board of education? |
Lydia
Supporter
Username: Lydial
Post Number: 976
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 9:23 pm: |
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Reflective,
The sign said "for Township Committee" that's why I figured it was for the TC and not the BOE.
The sign was the same blue and white as another TC candidate used, but reversed, Blue on white instead of white on blue. Same font I think
I heard tonight that the Maplewood Democratic Committee voted overwhelmingly to endorse Fred Profeta and Ian Grodman as the Maplewood Democrat's choice for the TC.
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Felice T. Londa, Esq.
Citizen
Username: Felicetl
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 4:41 pm: |
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I have been browsing the emails concerning the coming election for Maplewood Township Committee and was amazed that someone who acknowledges that he knows little about Maplewood then made the false suggestion that our Mayor Fred Profeta does not support the gay and lesbian community.
Clearly, the writer does not know that Maplewood was the host of the New Jersey State Festival in honor of the first effective date of the Domestic Partnership Act. The Act went into effect on a Saturday, and requires those who want to register as domestic partners to go to town hall and fill in the forms. The procedure is about as romantic as getting a dog license.
Instead, I emailed our Mayor and asked if there was any way to open town hall to permit the registrations to be done on that Saturday, and then to perhaps have a party on the town hall lawn.
By almost instantaneous response, Fred responded that he thought it was a wonderful idea, and he would work on it. And, he did. What happened was the most wonderful example of local government holding out its hand of welcome to everyone. The festival, sponsored and paid for by the New Jersey Lesbian and Gay Coalition, brought some wonderfully positive publicity to our town. We were covered not only by the local press, but statewide, national and international press as well. I had relatives vacationing in Nicaragua who saw a report on Maplewood and the festival while traveling there.
In fact, thanks to Fred Profeta and the other members of the township committee, Maplewood was the FIRST municipality in New Jersey to offer domestic partnership benefits to partners of town employees. Many communities and Boards of Education have passed similar resolutions, including South Orange, and our South Orange/Maplewood Board of Education. But, Maplewood was the first!
The Mayor is not only a strong proponent of equal rights for the GLBT community but for everyone. He lives his beliefs. We are proud to call him our friend, as well as our Mayor.
The GLBT community is not always as lucky as we are in Maplewood. So, don't cast stones into this Maplewood election. Fred Profeta is open and effective and supportive of the GLBT community, as well as with every minority group living in our town.
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Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 5780
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 4:55 pm: |
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Fred Profeta rocks. |
buzzsaw
Citizen
Username: Buzzsaw
Post Number: 1664
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:23 am: |
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I hear that. Fred is a great guy. |
Michael Janay
Citizen
Username: Childprotect
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 11:56 am: |
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I agree,
Fred has done a great job, not only will I vote for him, but whoever he supports too. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 13336
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 8:03 pm: |
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I'm glad that Ms.Londa posted about Frederico's support for the GLBT community. I spent some time speaking to Frederico and Ian and Kathy in Town Hall on that day and it was clear they they were all extraordinarily supportive of the event and genuinely believed in it. They all spoke glowingly about how proud they were regarding how the day transpired and how the community responded.
Frederico and Co. could have played it very safe and done nothing. Instead, they decided to do something that reflected the wishes of the broader community. It worked well and they should be applauded for it.
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L'Angelo Misterioso
Citizen
Username: Misterioso
Post Number: 30
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 9:59 am: |
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Good for the gander dept:
[they] could have played it very safe and done nothing. Instead, they decided to do something that reflected the wishes of the broader community. ... they should be applauded for it.
Sbenois agrees: the TC's antiwar proclamation was the right thing to do, and Vic, Jerry et al are to be applauded for it! |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 13348
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:00 am: |
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Nonsense.
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lumpyhead
Citizen
Username: Lumpyhead
Post Number: 1184
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:02 am: |
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Applauded right out the door. |
L'Angelo Misterioso
Citizen
Username: Misterioso
Post Number: 31
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:03 am: |
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Either the TC should express "the wishes of the broader community" or they shouldn't. If you don't like it sometimes, you don't really like it at all. |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 13349
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:03 am: |
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By the way, I love the Delaney and Bonnie album |
L'Angelo Misterioso
Citizen
Username: Misterioso
Post Number: 32
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:05 am: |
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Oh my sweet lord |
sbenois
Supporter
Username: Sbenois
Post Number: 13350
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:06 am: |
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Maybe.
I'll think about it. |
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