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Face
Citizen
Username: Face
Post Number: 518
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 8:34 pm: | 
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“Jubilant” protesters, draped in a Lebanese flags, have gathered in Beirut's central square since the assassination of former prime minister Rafik al-Hariri. They demand the withdrawal of Syrian troops and the resignation of all top pro-Syrian political and security officials.
Could this be a side result of the Bush administration's policy of spreading freedom in the Middle East?
http://olympics.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=7764323
And if you don’t believe me, check out what Hillary is doing and saying these days. She has been doing a masterful job of toning down her liberalism a little bit at a time. She has abandoned the “Howard Dean” party line by praising the Iraqi elections, opposing a date certain for American withdrawal and supporting our military.
Am I the only one or does anyone else notice that Hillary sounds wiser in direct proportion to the extent she emulates the conservative position.
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cjc
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Username: Cjc
Post Number: 3201
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2005 - 8:43 pm: |
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She sounds wise, just as Clinton sounded 'new' when he ran on welfare reform and voted against it twice before realizing he had to sign it to win a second term.
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Face
Citizen
Username: Face
Post Number: 519
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 - 9:40 pm: |
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Make no mistake about it. Arab leaders, (privileged oppressors, fortunate dictators, and honored tyrants) throughout the Middle East have been served notice, "liberty is on the march in the Middle East".
The Bush Administration ’s strategy to introduce democracy to the Middle East is operational. And not just in Lebanon. I read today that multi-party elections are being explored for Egypt. (of course they won’t resemble pure democratic style elections yet, but it's a start)
Saudi Arabian leaders are also rumored to be considering some sort of electoral processes. So that is now the Egyptians, the Syrians, the Lebanese, and the Saudis. They all want a serving of what Afghanistan and Iraq are having.
I wonder about Iran. That country has had 25 years of Ayatollah’s rule, will they too want a taste from this refreshing democratic well?
I was surprised that only one poster chose to comment, yet I suspect that’s probably due to the overwhelming number of MOL’ers wishing to minimize anything Bush does that is positive as much as possible. It doesn't fit the “Bush-bashing” model.
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Nohero
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Username: Nohero
Post Number: 4385
Registered: 10-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 - 10:57 pm: |
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"I was surprised that only one poster chose to comment ..."
Why bother? If the assumption is that disagreement with the Administration is due to "Bush bashing" or "Bush hatred", there's not much point in having a discussion. But, if you want a response, there was a similar discussion on another thread today. I'll repeat here what I wrote there:
Long before the GWB presidency, the Lebanese have been demanding freedom from Syria. Former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, who was killed recently in a car bombing, was active in opposition to the Syrian-controlled government. He spent his fortune and years of his life to rebuild Beirut after the ravages of civil war in that country. His assasination galvanized the opposition as never before.
Frankly, it's a little insulting to the late Mr. Hariri, and to the other leaders of the opposition in Lebanon, for the right-wing pundits to suggest that they were sitting around waiting to be inspired by the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
"I wonder about Iran. That country has had 25 years of Ayatollah’s rule, will they too want a taste from this refreshing democratic well?"
Well, sure, especially since that country also has an active opposition, pre-dating the Iraq invasion. One of their leading human rights activists won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2003. So, this has been going on, for a lot of different reasons, before the recent election in Iraq. |
paul vizzone
Citizen
Username: Bmx
Post Number: 3
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 4, 2005 - 10:06 pm: |
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The nobel Peace Prize is awarded annually by the Nobel Committee to the person "who has done the most to promote peace." Yet, hasn't it really become a reward to some of the Left's most visible stalwarts, rewarding Communists and terrorists?
The example you choose is ironic, in that a Moslem woman, (yes a Moslem woman... how politically correct was that?) was choosen in 2003. A woman who, (is quoted in your link as suggesting), "sees no conflict between Islam and fundamental human rights."
Hello! Has she at all seen what Moslem women are treated like in numerous Moslem countries? Hey, I cannot tell you much about modern day Iran women, but in many other countries Islamic women are not allowed to go to school. They cannot vote. They must hide themselves beneath Burkas as they walk, they cannot drive cars, as those too are not allowed. Not true in Iran you say, look at the impact of Islam elsewhere I say.
The article also says about her that, "It is important to her that the dialogue between the different cultures and religions of the world should take as its point of departure their shared values." What shared values? Iran doesn't have much contact with the outside world. Is that what she calls sharing?
I ask in all candor, have you heard this woman speak since receiving this cherished award? Has she spoken out about anything significant regarding her sisters in Islam? Does much of her free speach come regularly out of Iran?
I did a google search and here's one thing she said recently. "Iranian society has refused to be coerced into silence" and that human rights groups are "vigorous" there." Yeah right! We often hear about the happenings in Iran, NOT!
And as for Iran and vigorous human rights groups...please don't start.
The Nobel Peace Prize has come to be seen as what it truly is: an annual political reward to the left's most visible and unwavering partisans.
The selection of Jimmy Carter in 2003 was a clear political message. Carter used it in criticizing the policies of the Bush administration as we went about trying to disarm Saddam Hussein and liberate the Iraqi people.
Bush deserves tremendous credit for promoting democracy in the middle East. The Afghanistan and Iraqi elections are helping to establish seeds of hope among so many others that democracy is begining to breed in the Middle East. And what news we've been hearing lately is just the tip off of what is still to come.
even the NY Times Editorial this week praised Bush's effort. Well, kind of anyway...
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Madden 11
Citizen
Username: Madden_11
Post Number: 636
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 4:43 pm: |
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Today, after weeks of cold, gray, and snowy weather, it's 60 degrees and beautiful out.
Now do you libs see why we had to invade Iraq??? |
Tom Reingold
Supporter
Username: Noglider
Post Number: 5748
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 1:14 pm: |
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Muslim countries treat their women deplorably, but is possible to be a Muslim and believe in human rights. To understand this, you have to believe there is a difference between the beliefs of individuals and the behaviors of nations.
After all, we don't want Arabs to believe that America is all about waging war. |
Montagnard
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Username: Montagnard
Post Number: 1460
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 - 10:20 pm: |
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Or about Michael Jackson, for that matter. |
Sgt. Pepper
Citizen
Username: Jjkatz
Post Number: 743
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 - 4:26 pm: |
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Or Paris Hilton. |
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